The Arkenstone

[Earendilyon]

Originally Posted by AragornII

This sounds like the dwarves had access to Thorin's tomb, if they could tell that Orcrist was glowing.

From you own quote from The Hobbit:

Upon his tomb, the Elvenking then laid Orcrist, the elvish sword that had been taken from Thorin in captivity.

So, the sword lay upon Thorin's tomb, not in it.

[JennyHallu]

Originally Posted by Earendilyon

From you own quote from The Hobbit:
So, the sword lay upon Thorin's tomb, not in it.

Perhaps the dwarves built a special holder for it in whatever marker they put up. But I agree, there wasn't any way on earth that tomb was going to be opened back up unless Thorin Oakenshield showed up alive and hale at the door for tea.

[Raynor]

Originally Posted by JennyHallu

But I agree, there wasn't any way on earth that tomb was going to be opened back up unless Thorin Oakenshield showed up alive and hale at the door for tea.

You would be surprised...

Originally Posted by Late writings, HoME XII

The Dwarves add that at that time Aule gained them also this privilege that distinguished them from Elves and Men: that the spirit of each of the Fathers (such as Durin) should, at the end of the long span of life allotted to Dwarves, fall asleep, but then lie in a tomb of his own body, at rest, and there its weariness and any hurts that had befallen it should be amended. Then after long years he should arise and take up his kingship again.

[Findegil]

Nice try, but Thorin was not Durin and so he would not be alive again.

Smaugs hord was not distributed in the way told here. "The Hobbit"; chapter 18: "The return journey":

There was, of course, no longer any question of dividing the hoard in such shares as had been planned, to Balin and Dwalin, and Dori and Nori and Ori, and Oin and Gloin, and Bifur and Bofur and Bombur-or to Bilbo. Yet a fourteenth share of all the silver and gold, wrought and unwrought, was given up to Bard; for Dain said: "We will honour the agreement of the dead, and he has now the Arkenstone in his keeping."
Even a fourteenth share was wealth exceedingly great, greater than that of many mortal kings. From that treasure Bard sent much gold to the Master of Lake-town; and he rewarded his followers and friends freely. To the Elvenking he gave the emeralds of Girion, such jewels as he most loved, which Dain had restored to him. To Bilbo he said: "This treasure is as much yours as it is mine; though old agreements cannot stand, since so many have a claim in its winning and defence. Yet even though you were willing to lay aside all your claim, I should wish that the words of Thorin, of which he repented, should not prove true: that we should give you little. I would reward you most richly of all."
"Very kind of you," said Bilbo. "But really it is a relief to me. How on earth should I have got all that treasure home without war and murder all along the way, I don't know. And I don't know what I should have done with it when I got home. I am sure it is better in your hands."
In the end he would only take two small chests, one filled with silver, and the other with gold, such as one strong pony could carry. "That will be quite as much as I can manage," said he.
...
"I beg of you," said Bilbo stammering and standing on one foot, "to accept this gift!" and he brought out a necklace of silver and pearls that Dain had given him at their parting.
"In what way have I earned such a gift, O hobbit?" said the king.
"Well, er, I thought, don't you know," said Bilbo rather confused, "that, er, some little return should be made for your, er, hospitality. I mean even a burglar has his feelings. I have drunk much of your wine and eaten much of your bread."
"I will take your gift, O Bilbo the Magnificent!" said the king gravely. "And I name you elf-friend and blessed. May your shadow never grow less (or stealing would be too easy)! Farewell!"

In addition Bilbo got one half of the treassure from the Trolls, which he an d Gandalf did recover on their journey home.

Respectfully
Findegil

[Gorhilion]

So have any of the dwarf Fathers gotten up again and hailed at the door for tea? And didn't Durin live for the longest? How many Dwarven Fathers were there?

[Elu Ancalime]

How many Dwarven Fathers were there?

Durin for Longbeards
Firebeard Father
Broadbeam Father
Stiffbeard Father
Blacklock Father
Stonefoot Father(?)
Hagrid? I cant tremember the last two clearly. Anyway, the last four apart from Longbeard, Broadbeam, and Firebeard wernt entirly cannocal i think...
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List of ford factories picture

[Findegil]

There were 6 members of the Haus of Dúrin and it is recorded that they were named thus because they were the father of that hous reborn. Thus the dwarven rebirth was not really digging your self out of the grave, but rebirth into your childrens children.
We do not know much abut the Durin's:
Dúrin I first Dwarf of all and founded Moria
Dúrin III aided The Elves in the war ofSauron against Eregion
Dúrin VI was killed by the Balrog of Moria in 1980 DZ
Dúrn VII & Last reestablished Moria as Dwarven Kingdom in the early fourth age

Respectfully
Findegil