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Anguirel · 03-07-2006, 08:11 AM

Now. I think it may be of some use to summarise the position of all of us on this plan-

Nogrod-The loudest direct opponent of mass-revelation. Went as far as to accuse me in all but name of being a wolf, on very ropey grounds. In my mind Nogrod is an innocent dupe, playing into the wolf's paws. The Seer has probably dreamed of him. It's also likely he's gifted.

Yes, if you haven't noticed, if you won't do the decent thing, I'm prepared to extract you. Yes, this will help the wolf if you don't agree to my advice. Which is rather the idea. "Rock and a hard place", indeed...

Thinlomien-hedging around on the whole issue. Won't say what she is, so the Gifteds can "wisely or unwisely" make up their own minds. But says that if they're going to come clean, they should do so quickly. Still, we've seen her quite capable of schizophrenia before. Could be Gifted or innocent.

Jenny_Hallu-was talked round and is in favour of the plan. Claims to be a villager. She may be so; equally may be the final wolf. She can't be Gifted; that would be counterproductively hypocritical.

A similar situation applies to Eonwe.

Valesse-against the plan. Also not indisposed to accuse me. Probably either Gifted or wolf.

Roa-totally silent today, ominously. Maybe dreamt of by the Seers. Maybe Gifted (which would really be sod's law). Almost definitely not a wolf.

Gil-Galad-totally silent. Hasn't opined on the plan or anything else. Unlikely to show up. I hope he's a villager, don't believe he's a wolf, fear he's Gifted, and really, really don't see why he applied to this game in the first place. Wouldn't mind double-lynching him with our favoured candidate, but am utterly against lynching him alone.

And me. Innocent, dreamt of by the seer (vide the anvil situation), boring you all stiff with talk of mass-revelation, and hoping to have some effect. Extremely keen to survive...

Thinlómien · 03-07-2006, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Anguirel

Yes, if you haven't noticed, if you won't do the decent thing, I'm prepared to extract you. Yes, this will help the wolf if you don't agree to my advice. Which is rather the idea. "Rock and a hard place", indeed...

It seems that Ang can make the village do as he wants to. Judged only by his posting this day, he acts very wolvishly. But I still believe he's innocent. But a manipulator-ordo, there's no question of that.

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Thinlomien-hedging around on the whole issue. Won't say what she is, so the Gifteds can "wisely or unwisely" make up their own minds. But says that if they're going to come clean, they should do so quickly. Still, we've seen her quite capable of schizophrenia before. Could be Gifted or innocent.

Gifteds aren't innocents?

Thanks for the comments though. You are very able to make those who aren't fully at your side look mindless. Have you ever considered a career in politics?

(And you people aren't probably interested, but I found what's my problem: I have to comment everything though I don't have an opinion on the matter!)

EDIT: 700th post! Yippee!

Thinlómien · 03-07-2006, 09:20 AM

Argh. No one's online except me. And I maybe have to leave soon. I'm quite sure, I'll be able to come back, but not maybe for a long time.

If the gifteds won't reveal themselves, I'll vote Eonwe or Valesse.

Anguirel · 03-07-2006, 09:23 AM

Which again implies that for you to be a Gifted, you'd have to be a frightful hypocrite.

Although with the Anguirelian Inquisition in town, that might be wise...

Thinlómien · 03-07-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Anguirel

Which again implies that for you to be a Gifted, you'd have to be a frightful hypocrite.

Although with the Anguirelian Inquisition in town, that might be wise...

What is "which"?

Thinlómien · 03-07-2006, 09:34 AM

It's my departure now...

Bye.

I'll be back.

I hope more people have posted when I come back.

I especially wish Roa to appear.

Roa_Aoife · 03-07-2006, 09:38 AM

Alright I'm here! And I've been reading evrything up till this point. (Well mostly skimming.) I agree with the mass reveal plan, but I think Nogrod is right- letthe Ranger and the Hunter stay hidden. It gives me more of a chance for survival.

That's right, I am Holby's fellow seer. Holby left that list on purpose. The poeple I know are innocent are Ang, Thin, Nogrod, and Eonwe.

That leaves:

JennyHallu
Gil-Galad
Valesse

I know who the gifted are. So whichever of you is the final wolf, don't bother pulling that trick.

Gil-Galad · 03-07-2006, 09:46 AM

thewolf is probably knocking off all the innocents

Roa_Aoife · 03-07-2006, 09:49 AM

Gil, substance please. And the wolf won't be able to kill anyone if we lynch him/her today.

JennyHallu · 03-07-2006, 09:50 AM

Gee, Gil, I thought the wolf was knocking off the wolves...

Me, Gil, and Valesse, huh?

Ang suspects Valesse, but I still insist I think the wolf is Gil. He's only voted once, and that with no reasoning. He continues to give no reasoning. He's been completely useless to the village. I think it's a bold strategy for a wolf, but apparently a totally successful one...

EDIT: Xposted with Roa

Nogrod · 03-07-2006, 09:59 AM

Thank's Roa!

I hope you Anguirel will once more see the reasons behind my arguments now, as the seer has being of the same opinion? (It's not any more only "the innocent dupe, playing into the wolf's paws" thinking thatwise... - and you people call me aggressive and having a bad attitude!

)

I just couldn't see the reason, why the ranger or the hunter should reveal themselves for the wolf to: catch immediately (ranger), and to willingly avoid to the end (hunter).

But now, we have wolf-hunting to do. So let's stick to it. I surely will start it right now.

PS. I think Thinlómien is right: Ang, you are quite persuasive! It took me some strength to voice my doubts. Happily the ranger or the hunter didn't reveal themselves...

EDIT: X-posted with quite a lot of stuff...

JennyHallu · 03-07-2006, 10:07 AM

Well, my input here is probably, since I'm an unknown, minimally helpful.

I am going, offering no surprises or new insight whatsoever, to urge voting for Valesse. I think Gil's the Wolf, so if we have a double vote, I guess it doesn't really matter, but...well, it's my second game, and I'd like to be able to say I survived to the end.

So...in a spirit of absolute vanity, I think we should lynch Valesse and Gil.

03-07-2006, 08:11 AM	#1
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Now. I think it may be of some use to summarise the position of all of us on this plan- Nogrod-The loudest direct opponent of mass-revelation. Went as far as to accuse me in all but name of being a wolf, on very ropey grounds. In my mind Nogrod is an innocent dupe, playing into the wolf's paws. The Seer has probably dreamed of him. It's also likely he's gifted. Yes, if you haven't noticed, if you won't do the decent thing, I'm prepared to extract you. Yes, this will help the wolf if you don't agree to my advice. Which is rather the idea. "Rock and a hard place", indeed... Thinlomien-hedging around on the whole issue. Won't say what she is, so the Gifteds can "wisely or unwisely" make up their own minds. But says that if they're going to come clean, they should do so quickly. Still, we've seen her quite capable of schizophrenia before. Could be Gifted or innocent. Jenny_Hallu-was talked round and is in favour of the plan. Claims to be a villager. She may be so; equally may be the final wolf. She can't be Gifted; that would be counterproductively hypocritical. A similar situation applies to Eonwe. Valesse-against the plan. Also not indisposed to accuse me. Probably either Gifted or wolf. Roa-totally silent today, ominously. Maybe dreamt of by the Seers. Maybe Gifted (which would really be sod's law). Almost definitely not a wolf. Gil-Galad-totally silent. Hasn't opined on the plan or anything else. Unlikely to show up. I hope he's a villager, don't believe he's a wolf, fear he's Gifted, and really, really don't see why he applied to this game in the first place. Wouldn't mind double-lynching him with our favoured candidate, but am utterly against lynching him alone. And me. Innocent, dreamt of by the seer (vide the anvil situation), boring you all stiff with talk of mass-revelation, and hoping to have some effect. Extremely keen to survive... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-07-2006, 09:20 AM	#3
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Argh. No one's online except me. And I maybe have to leave soon. I'm quite sure, I'll be able to come back, but not maybe for a long time. If the gifteds won't reveal themselves, I'll vote Eonwe or Valesse. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

03-07-2006, 09:23 AM	#4
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Which again implies that for you to be a Gifted, you'd have to be a frightful hypocrite. Although with the Anguirelian Inquisition in town, that might be wise... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-07-2006, 09:34 AM	#6
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	It's my departure now... Bye. I'll be back. I hope more people have posted when I come back. I especially wish Roa to appear. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

03-07-2006, 09:38 AM	#7
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Alright I'm here! And I've been reading evrything up till this point. (Well mostly skimming.) I agree with the mass reveal plan, but I think Nogrod is right- letthe Ranger and the Hunter stay hidden. It gives me more of a chance for survival. That's right, I am Holby's fellow seer. Holby left that list on purpose. The poeple I know are innocent are Ang, Thin, Nogrod, and Eonwe. That leaves: JennyHallu Gil-Galad Valesse I know who the gifted are. So whichever of you is the final wolf, don't bother pulling that trick. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

03-07-2006, 09:46 AM	#8
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	thewolf is probably knocking off all the innocents __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-07-2006, 09:49 AM	#9
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Gil, substance please. And the wolf won't be able to kill anyone if we lynch him/her today. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

03-07-2006, 09:50 AM	#10
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Gee, Gil, I thought the wolf was knocking off the wolves... Me, Gil, and Valesse, huh? Ang suspects Valesse, but I still insist I think the wolf is Gil. He's only voted once, and that with no reasoning. He continues to give no reasoning. He's been completely useless to the village. I think it's a bold strategy for a wolf, but apparently a totally successful one... EDIT: Xposted with Roa __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

03-07-2006, 09:59 AM	#11
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Thank's Roa! I hope you Anguirel will once more see the reasons behind my arguments now, as the seer has being of the same opinion? (It's not any more only "the innocent dupe, playing into the wolf's paws" thinking thatwise... - and you people call me aggressive and having a bad attitude! ) I just couldn't see the reason, why the ranger or the hunter should reveal themselves for the wolf to: catch immediately (ranger), and to willingly avoid to the end (hunter). But now, we have wolf-hunting to do. So let's stick to it. I surely will start it right now. PS. I think Thinlómien is right: Ang, you are quite persuasive! It took me some strength to voice my doubts. Happily the ranger or the hunter didn't reveal themselves... EDIT: X-posted with quite a lot of stuff... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

03-07-2006, 10:07 AM	#12
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Well, my input here is probably, since I'm an unknown, minimally helpful. I am going, offering no surprises or new insight whatsoever, to urge voting for Valesse. I think Gil's the Wolf, so if we have a double vote, I guess it doesn't really matter, but...well, it's my second game, and I'd like to be able to say I survived to the end. So...in a spirit of absolute vanity, I think we should lynch Valesse and Gil. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!