Survivor: The Second Age

[The Saucepan Man]

Justice at last!

Well, I consider myself bound to honour my pledge to Boromir88 and so, today, I must vote for Elros (even though he himself seems inclined not to do so). Since, however, Boro did not vote in the decisive events of yesterday, I consider myself bound to do so for one day only.

+ + ELROS TAR-MINYATUR

Now to think of some reasons …

Erm, his title always makes me think of him as a Minotaur. And Minotaurs are bad things, right?

Not good enough?

OK, his name is translated either as “Elf of the Spray” or “Star-Foam”. The first of these is a misrepresentation, as he was no Elf, and it is also rather effeminate. The second sounds like Styrofoam, which is an artificial substance, suggesting that he might have been somewhat false in his dealings.

Still not good enough?

OK, let’s look at his life. As one of the sons of Earendil and Elwing, he was given the choice between Elvish immortality and Mannish immortality. I do not criticise his choice, as he showed a greater degree of humility than his brother in choosing mortality over immortality. However, why was he even given a choice? What had he ever done to deserve it? Prior to this, all we really know about him is that he managed (along with his twin bother, now thankfully departed) to get himself kidnapped by the sons of Feanor and ended up playing around in a waterfall. Big deal. And, if it was simply in consequence of the deeds of his parents, well that smacks of nepotism to me.

And then, having chosen mortality, he is given exceptional longevity and his own private island to rule. Again, what did he ever do to deserve such honours?

And, as ruler of Numenor, did he ever achieve anything worthwhile? Not that I am aware of. OK, so he is at the head of a long line of great Kings. But anyone in his position could have achieved that. I’m looking for a more solid performance, but just not seeing anything.

So there we have it. Elros had it all handed to him on a silver platter in return for doing absolutely nothing. In light of a similarly poor performance on the show to date, he is not a deserving winner and should be evicted forthwith.

Originally Posted by Tuor of Gondolin

... before leading them all in a Pied Piper march to the Old Forest.

You mean that Treebeard is the phantom ...

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Originally Posted by Tuor of Gondolin
... before leading them all in a Pied Piper march to the Old Forest.

You mean that Treebeard is the phantom ...

That was supposed to be a secret!
After all, the phantom already knows what
evil lurks in the hearts of men!

[Anguirel]

Aha! Lookee at the hypocrite!

The so-called champion of minor characters persecutes them in the person of Elros, continuing to let Sauron run riot! What lack of imagination!

There is now absolutely no reason why Sauron should remain. The tide is clearly turning against those perceived as claiming the "right to win".

These world-domination jags of his have never been funny, and his transvestitism as pictured here



is just disturbing, and frightening away both male and female audiences. We've had enough of this "Annatar" thing. It's getting depressing and really quite sad.

As for his ludicrous Gothic fashions...



Not much better, are they? Particularly as whatever armour he wears, he still gets pasted in battle by any half-decent Elf or Man who takes him on.

As for this...



...just embarrassing, isn't it? Stop trying to be evil-looking, you old failure. We know you've just got cataracts.

++SAURON

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

The so-called champion of minor characters persecutes them in the person of Elros, continuing to let Sauron run riot!

First off, I am honouring a pledge, albeit most likely for one day only. You, at least, surely understand the importance of honour.

Secondly, I would most certainly not describe Elros, despite his failure to achieve by his own efforts anything worthwhile, as a minor character. He is one of the central figures of the Second Age, and so fair game as far as I am concerned.

For what it's worth, I agree that Sauron should go too. He, like Elrond, is beginning to look like a bit of a sad has-been in these shows. If you would but exercise a little patience, and show some imagination yourself by considering an alternative candidate of your own for once, I will be happy to join you in your endeavour.

I suspect, however, that you will find some sympathetic ears elsewhere today.

[Lalaith]

I've been pondering who to vote for today - it was this that swung it for me:

The tide is clearly turning against those perceived as claiming the "right to win".

I do hope so.

In the Second Age, Sauron turned many to his will: most of Numenor, the Nazgul, the Voice of Sauron, whoever he once was, the Dead Men (before they were dead). Those most vunerable to his lure were those who were attracted by the glamour of power, who could be persuaded that "might was right".
Now he's doing it to the viewers as well. You can see his influence right here in this thread. It's like that bit in "The Ring" (the Japanese horror flick, I mean, not Wagner or Tolkien) when the girl crawls out of the telly to get you. *shudder*
It's getting creepy and it must stop.
++SAURON

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Lalaith is quite convincing. The
Faithful should resist the allure of Sauron.

- - Treebeard
+ + Sauron

[WaynetheGoblin]

++SAURUN
i think that i voted for him at the beggining.

[Diamond18]

Wayne, I think you might want to edit your post to add some more Tolkien based reasoning, or your vote most likely won't count at the end of the day. And believe me, there's nothing sadder that not counting fer nuthin' at the end of the day.

I said I would vote for Sauron and I'm a gonna:

+ + Sauron

First of all, he's a bad guy. Do we honestly need more reason than that? Kill the bad guys, kill the bad guys!

Secondly, as there as there are only two bad guys left, let's compare them.

The Witch-King -- strikes fear in the hearts of grown men and maketh them soileth themselves.

Sauron -- Gives pretty gifts and whispers anti-Valiar rubbish into people's ears, but otherwise leaves everything cool and scary to his lackeys. Oh get off your bum, you lousy pathetic excuse for a Dark Lord!

Should someone who was bested by a trio of halflings really win Survivor? I think not. Should someone who fell for the age old trick of tapping the opposite shoulder (i.e. Aragon and co. at the Black Gate) really win Survivor? Please. Made ya look!