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Old 03-18-2006, 11:26 AM   #1
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I'm more inclined to see this as a sign that Nogrod is innocent. I mean, she wouldn't latch to Kuru and Nogrod, would she?. If so, does this make Mormegil's earlier pursuit wolfish? And if Nogrod is a wolf, well then, this is a very strange game. But Kuru goes back to speaking against Nogrod today. I believe that he is trying to pin something on an innocent.
I would like just to note something on interpreteing wolf's posts and drawing conclusions on them.

1) Wolves probably try mildly to support ordos that are controversial enough in the village (possible lynched), and kill the really dangerous ones at night. But if some of their "expedient villagers" start to get out of suspicion, they will readily remind others about those suspicions...
2) You should see the context when it was made (was the wolf confident about getting it to the other day when writing, what did s/he know by the time etc.)


Really good job from Firefoot, whatever you are. And I hope you being one of us! Tend to believe her innocent. As I do for the moment with Morm and Azaelia, perhaps. Kind of gets really hard after one or two people.

Kind of sorry about having very active RL day, and can't stick my mind so wholeheartedly in this. Tomorrow, I probably hope to be of more help.

PS. Have you noticed one more curiosity about this game?
Day 1 Sleepy comes from nowhere, and with no explanations as such, votes for Fea as the first person to do that - who turns out to be a wolf.
Day 2 Gil comes from nowhere, and with no explanations as such, votes for Kuru as the first person to do that - who turns out to be a wolf!!!

This is a magical village, now it really is! (add to this the first night's incredible voting hassle ending in a dead wolf, seer having two wolves with just two dreams...)
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Old 03-18-2006, 12:17 PM   #2
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The remorseful day?

Despite the not unexpected horror of Commander Ranger's death, the surviving sleuths were in upbeat mood that morning. Some of the more cynical might say that at a certain level they enjoyed using their skills once again in their secluded village. Many had reverted to type and prepared cases against their fellow villagers. these included mormegil the cryptologist, Nogrod and Diamond, detectives both, and Firefoot the crimewriter. Most confident of all was the FBI man, Boromir 88. Some might have thought the Agent had overdone the "damn fine coffee - and hot!" so ardent was he in his assertion that Kuruharan, the curmudgeonly, Wagner-loving detective turned publican was another wolf but his claim to be the seer convinced the majority.

Soon the Inspector's felt was sealed and a lynchmob, more numerous and more confident than the day before, came to drag him from his bar, whence he had gone to sulk, sup real ale and do the cross word. He had just completed "Gave succour to assistant with first delivery" (5) and was working on "California Vet may make a bloomer" (7,6), when they arrived ......

"Crosswords - bah - hang him" said one.

"You are being ridiculous - you should know I woul have nothing to do with a cartoon inspector - I was a Chief Inspector - with Oxfordshire CID" He protested, gruffly.

"And look what happened to the murder rate during your time there - It was worse than the Bronx!" pointed out Azaelia.

"You are a fine one to talk - Causton is even worse- and they all got solved in the end"

"All this is academic" - said Boromir "We are going to hang you and prove that you are the solution to this anagram" he added scribbling "We send fool crew" somewhat ungrammatically across the Inspector's paper.

The hanging basket with its long dead flowers was removed from the village gibbet and they hanged Kuruharan as light faded from the sky.

There was a look of sadness in the man's clear blue eyes as they placed the noose around his neck btu he had to much dignity to resist.

The lynch mob let him fall waiting for the crack of a breaking neck. It did not come. the rope squeezed tighter and Kuruharan's face changed. Red it went first as the blood congested in his head.

"The drop wasn't long enough" - complained someone.

"It was" insisted Oddwen - "I am a professor of pathology - I know how much drop is required to break the neck of a man his size."

But then they realised that Kuruharan's face had legthened and was covered with white fur.

"But" asked Kitanna sardonically"do you know the drop for a werewolf his size?".

Before she could get an answer, Mormegil seized her cane once more and plunged it through the beast's heart.

Villagers 9 Wolves 1

Night 3 has begun.

Seer and wolf PM me. You are entitled to the full 24 hours but I may start the Day slightly earlier if I have received the necessary requests. But it is unlikely to be much earlier since I have a family lunch to go to - unless I get the requests very quickly.
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Old 03-18-2006, 12:20 PM   #3
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Dead:

Mithalwen - moderator killed by werewolves on Night 1
Feanor of the Peredhil - werewolf not hanged but drowned, drawn and pinned on Day 1
Sleepy Ranger - ordinary Villager, suffocated by gold paint (so tacky) on Night 2
Kuruharan - werewolf, lynched anagrammaticaly on Day 2

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AoW,B88,D18,Ff,G-g,JH,Kit,Morm, Nog, Oddone,
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Wolves 1
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Old 03-19-2006, 09:20 AM   #4
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When morning came noone was surprised ot find that Agent Boromir was ampong those who gathered on the village green. His house, Cooperdale Cottage was next to the pub and they found the door open.

There was no sign of blood but a strange smell wafted over the usual fragrance of coffee and cherry pie. The livingroom with it's racks of neatly labelled tapes was untouched - the only odd thing was a log on the desk. Beside it was a piece of paper on which Boromir hadwritten the names of Feanor and Kuruharan. They followed their noses to the bathroom where they found Boromir lying in the bath still dressed in his customary suit and trenchcoat. Boromir had been drowned but not in water. The bath had been filled with baked-beans and Boromir's eyes had been replaced with tomatoes. How much he must have suffered.

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Mithalwen - moderator killed by werewolves on Night 1
Feanor of the Peredhil - werewolf not hanged but drowned, drawn and pinned on Day 1
Sleepy Ranger - ordinary Villager, suffocated by gold paint (so tacky) on Night 2
Kuruharan - werewolf, lynched anagrammaticaly on Day 2
Boromir88 - seer, drowned in a bath of baked beans by a werewolf on Night 3

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AoW,D18,Ff,G-g,JH,Kit,Morm, Nog, Oddone,
Villagers 8
Wolves 1

You have until 6.30 pm Monday GMT to lynch someone. Clear majority is 5 and if this is reached, votes become non-retractable.
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Old 03-19-2006, 11:19 AM   #5
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Silmaril I have prepared yet another statement

I just got done with a long day of work, filled with screaming babies and scary people with unwashed hair, so I’m currently too tired to think straight. But, as it’s Night and there’s nothing else to do, I’ll try to write some kind of comprehensive post for as soon as Day starts again. (Note, when this is actually posted I will not have just got home from work, most likely I’ll just have gotten up. As I type it’s Saturday evening.)

So.... people I’m most suspicious of:

Firefoot
Oddwen
Azaelia

People I’m less suspicious of:

Kitanna
Mormegil
JennyHallu
Nogrod
Gil-Galad


People I’m hardly suspicious of at all:

Hahaha, funny, that.

People of whose pure driven snowy white innocence I’m assured:

Myself.

Duh.

Sleepy Ranger
Boromir88

RIP, guys.

So, let’s review the list, shall we?

Firefoot

So, right, we’ve been told not to read too much into what Fea said/did -- but look at Kuru. Prior to Boro’s revelation I was NOT intending to vote for Kuru, because the only really suspicious thing I saw about him (more than your garden variety everybody-here-is-suspicious suspicion) was Fea’s behavior toward him, and I was going with the “Pay no mind to Fea, she’s crazy” stuff. Seems that Kuru-Wolf was most vocal in that regard, eh? So considering Fea’s encouragement to leave Firefoot be.... I’m not at all comfortable letting Firefoot be. Maybe Firefoot’s innocent, maybe she’s a wolf, but right now I’m more comfortable with the idea of finding out by “lynching” her rather than... not knowing.

(SUNDAY EDIT: Note also that Firefoot was online and posted in Survivor a mere couple of hours before Boro's death was announced. Coincedence?)

Oddwen and Azaelia, on the other hand, I just can’t get a good grasp on and since “We fear what we do not know,” I’m leery of them. It could be nothing more than RL keeping their posting fairly quiet, but still that gives me less to go on.

Kitanna

Frankly, as I’m mainly suspicious of Firefoot right now, my feelings of suspicion for Kitanna may stem from the fact that she’s relatively quite within the game and I don’t know her very well outside the game. So all “How does Kitanna behave in such and such situation?” questions come up with a big fat, “uuuuuuh, I don’t know” as an answer. Therefore, Kitanna rings a big fat , “uuuuuuh, I don’t know” on my Suspicion Bell.

Mormegil

Fea fingered him for a Seer. Seems her vote for him was far less cheeky than her vote for Kuru, therefore seems she was more serious about trying to get him killed. If Fea wanted him dead, I’m inclined to think him innocent.

JennyHallu

I was getting really suspicious of Jenny for mostly niggling reasons, flags that might be signals of a wolf playing a sloppy game, and that feeling increased when she said she was very suspicious of me... I got scared and felt like she was a wolf going after me. However, since knowing Kuru’s guilt, I find it hard to believe Jenny’s a wolf, so I’m chalking up her suspicious behavior to personality, and not actual wolfishness.

Nogrod

Seems, as someone put it, genuine. He posts a lot and seems into the game with an innocent sort of enthusiasm, so he’s about as far down on my suspicion list as one can get. Am I 100%? Never.

Gil-Galad

Here’s an interesting wrinkle, Gil said he’d be gone till Sunday evening. This is problematic if he’s a wolf, because, well, he should be contacting Mith about who to kill before then. So, either Gil’s not a wolf, or he’s a wolf and he figured Kuru would take care of tonight’s kill, or he’s a wolf and he’s NOT gone, he just wants us to think so and the only action he’s taking is to secretly PM Mithalwen with his victim. Personally, I’m thinking it’s as simple as him just not being a wolf, though it’s entirely within the realm of possibility that he is.

Me

Well, I have been called wishy-washy, quiet, all over the place, defensive, etc. I guess I am wishy-washy, can’t deny that. But that’s because I’m not a Seer and I’m not a Wolf, so wishy-washy and all over the place is all I can be -- one feels that way when one is so completely in the dark. Maybe more experience leads to more assurance, but... then again I’m a Libra, so somehow I find that rather doubtful. I didn’t think of myself as being defensive toward Boro, and it wasn’t my intent to turn the tables on him, I was just posting on what little there was to post on at the time -- I mean I was suspicious, but no more than of anyone else. I was defensive toward Jenny, because, like I said, I thought her wolfish at the time and she scared me with her assessment. As for quiet... well, I’m here and I post when I’m here. When I’m gone, either asleep or at work or otherwise busy with eating/personal hygiene, I don’t post. Naturally.

Sleepy Ranger

Dead, poor guy.

Boro

Probably dead by the time this gets posted. Martyred be the Lone Wolf. Rather a romantic way to go, all things considered.

Anyhow, I didn’t bother with play by play’s of people’s posts, because, well, it’s already been done at this point.

I’m voting Firefoot today, unless anyone can convince me why it would be a really stupendously good idea to vote for someone else.
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Old 03-19-2006, 12:34 PM   #6
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I'm sorry, but this is absurd. Anyone who knows me knows that I'm on quite a bit, especially on weekends. I would bet that most of you have been on sometime in the past 24 hours. I guess that means we're all wolves, right? That is quite possibly the most shoddy evidence I have ever heard for wolvishness.
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I've already addressed this point two or three times. Heck, I have even looked into Fea's posts to see what I could find there.
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Old 03-19-2006, 01:04 PM   #7
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Do you think there is anything of interest to us in Mith's last lynching post? That "second werewolf" -anagram surely wasn't one, neither the "California Vet may make a bloomer" (7, 6), if it meant only her comment on our game: so Boromir's (7) self-revealment was a bit hasty from her viewpoint?

But what could that (6) be, who could be misguided (Oddwen (6) to vote for Morm? - too obvious & substantial hinting)? Or the other crossword that Kuru had already solved: "Gave succour to assistant with first delivery" (5). I can only think of Jenny as five-letter name, and there is no sense in that - and should the answer be a name - and is there anything of interest in these anyhow?

As there have been many people suspecting Firefoot (whom I've inclined to trust) and Kitanna (of whom I have nothing in the way or the other), I'll be doing some homework with them, and be back in some hours.

Still: a wonderful start! If we are considerate enough, we might have three wolves in three nights (unhappily, I doubt it, but we can hope)! Would that be a WW-record of some kind?
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Old 03-19-2006, 01:23 PM   #8
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(SUNDAY EDIT: Note also that Firefoot was online and posted in Survivor a mere couple of hours before Boro's death was announced. Coincedence?)
Your other reasons against Firefoot have some merit, but come on now, picking on her for a post she made hours before Boromir's death is just a shot below the waist. I'm sure most of us made posts on one thread or another during the night so that shouldn't have any bearing in what we're trying to do here.
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Do you think there is anything of interest to us in Mith's last lynching post? That "second werewolf" -anagram surely wasn't one, neither the "California Vet may make a bloomer" (7, 6), if it meant only her comment on our game: so Boromir's (7) self-revealment was a bit hasty from her viewpoint?
It may have something to do with Kuru's role and nothing more.
Be back in a bit with some thoughts.
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Old 03-19-2006, 02:30 PM   #9
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Hey, guys, checking in. I still think the analysis of Fea's and Kuru's posts that I did the other day could be useful.

I also think that looking at the voting record, (more importantly the timing of the voting record) could really help us in at least crossing some people off the list of suspects. However, I'm busy playing a game with my husband right now and will be mostly lurking for a while.
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