Survivor: The Second Age

[Formendacil]

Day Twenty-one was a two-person race, between Celeborn the Tall and Tar-Míriel of Númenor. The voting fell as follows:

Tar-Míriel: IIII

Celeborn: IIIII I

It took them Twenty-one days to do it, but in the end, the Anti-Celeborn League of such fame and notoriety in Survivor: The Lord of the Rings again achieved its goal, and Celeborn was cast forth from the game.

Those remaining:

Tribe of Those Born Immortal:
Galadriel
Celebrían
Celebrimbor

Tribe of Those Born Mortal:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel
Anárion
The Witch-king

Day 22 begins now, with the Mortal Tribe one up. Vote away!

Oh, and I'm predicting a Galadriel win.

[Elu Ancalime]

++Celebr?an

She does nothing important in the Second age, and is not mentioned until she gets mugged; and so Celebrian is learned because of her faliure of the buddy system.
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[The 1,000 Reader]

++Celebrian.

As mentioned before, Celebrian did nothing in particular, and being attacked isn't something of greatness. The other remaining people have at least accomplished something, from making a kingdom to stealing one.

[Eonwe]

++Witch-King

It follows that because Celebrian was not mentioned much in any histories, she is not all that important. I would have to agree with you on that point. She never ruled a realm, never fought in a great battle, never sat with the heads of state deciding great polocies. But I like her anyway. Almost because she didn't do any of that.

The Witch-King on the other hand, if fighting against all that the Second Age stands for: Sam Gamgee and the Gaffer, Bilbo writing verses by the fire, the Mountains, the Rule of Men, the Havens of Elves, the will of Manwe and Eru. I find that dispicable.

Celebrian is a perfect Second Ager: percisely because she is not "important".

[Tuor in Gondolin]

+ + The Witch-King

When the going got tough in Arnor, the W-K got going.
(running away! The wimp).

[JennyHallu]

++Witch-King

Celebrian was loved dearly by her husband and her children, and managed to survive while all those who accompanied her were slain. This speaks to me of a woman kind and true, with bravery that should be an inspiration to us all.

The Witch-King does not belong in such exalted company.

[Diamond18]

+ + The Witch King

The Witch King is evil. Need I say more?

[Formendacil]

Day Twenty-two was a day of scandal, as the voters fell to petty bickering amongst themselves. It was like a Ring of Power had been dropped into their midst. The final outcome, therefore, was ironically appropriate. The voting fell as follows:

Elros: I

Celebrían: IIII

The Witch-king: IIIII

As gone as he was invisible, the Witch-king was voted off, evening up the tribes...

Those remaining:

Tribe of Those Born Immortal:
Galadriel
Celebrían
Celebrimbor

Tribe of Those Born Mortal:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel
Anárion

Day 23 begins, and I'm still predicting a Galadriel win. And, an interesting tidbit of information for the curious: the genders have been balanced.

Oh, and Diamond: it may be inconsistent of me... but since the Witch-king is definitely considered evil, that was definitely a counted rationale. Just try and support it with examples, to make it perfect.

[The 1,000 Reader]

++Celebrian.

Not because I want her gone*, but because she needs it.

Don't you see? Being on this island and roughing it with so many different people has scared and confused poor Celebrian. With people being sent off in small boats and poofing into thin air she doesn't even know if the world is real. Sauron spreading rumors that she was fat and that Elrond re-married has really hurt her. She's been spending the last five days on this island depressed and lying on the beach, staring at the ocean, wanting to go back to Valinor. Staying on the island by a lame voting plot rigged by Mirel and Galadriel against someone else has made her believe that everyone is against her. She thinks that the men will take advantage of her and the woman will make her a slave. She doesn't think she can make it. Anarion thinks she might kill herself soon.

So please, send Celebrian off the island so that she can return to Valinor and heal from this experience.

(*Okay, so maybe a tiny bit.)

Also,

Originally Posted by The 1,000 Reader

Celebrian didn't even see the war front; she just walked on the wrong side of the tracks on purpose and got hurt. The Queen of Rivendell should know where the enemy roams. She didn't have to endure horrorific armies and whatnot. Furthermore, she sailed into the west becuase of her injury. When that happened to Frodo, it was his "death" so to speak. The same applies for Celebrian.

[Lhunardawen]

++CELEBRIAN

Okay, okay, she's a wonderful Elf...but she doesn't deserve to be here. Please don't make me give any further explanation other than what I've already said previously because, really, what else is there to say?

[JennyHallu]

++Celebrimbor

Celebrimbor's gullibility was the root of most of the problems faced during the Second Age. If a man is granted real skill and wisdom, he should use them, not allow himself to be duped by a known enemy.

And as for Celebrian, she represents a goodness and innocence that was sorely needed in Second Age ME. The 1,000 Reader, your arguement makes no sense: Frodo's journey to Valinor, while irrelevant, was also not his death. It was his ultimate triumph, a return to Eden-on-Earth, where he died a natural human death in his own good time. And Celebrian's retreat from Middle-Earth was, in the same way, NOT her death. It was the greatest tragedy to befall the world in the Second Age. (Celebrimbor's stupidity with the Rings, and the Numenoreans' stupidity with their ONE rule was just stupidity, and difficult to see as a tragedy, really) But that Celebrian's goodness and innocence was harmed by the corruption of Middle-Earth, that we learn that good things cannot last in a corrupt world, that is tragic. I say that Celebrian should survive, even win, as our own denial of the hopelessness of this Middle Earth.

[The Saucepan Man]

+ + CELEBRIMBOR

His greed for knowledge of ring lore led him to be taken in by Sauron and thus significantly contributed towards the downfall of Kings of Men, the corruption of Dwarven Lords, the waning of Elven power in Middle-earth, the creation of the One Ring and, therefore, the near total victory of Sauron.

He was humiliatingly used as a flag by the armies of Mordor.

Basically, he was a complete embarrassment to the line of Feanor.

And, on the Island, he occupies himself weaving plants into rings and calling them Rings of Flower, rather than contributing usefully towards the tasks or camp duties.

Besides, if he goes, it will annoy Ang and TP.

[Celuien]

++ELROS

Same reasoning as before. Minus the part about boycotting the anti-Celebornists.

[Lalaith]

++ELROS

same reasons as before. And I'm fond of Celebrimbor. He's clever, he makes pretty things and he likes Galadriel. What's not to like?

[The 1,000 Reader]

Originally Posted by JennyHallu

And as for Celebrian, she represents a goodness and innocence that was sorely needed in Second Age ME. The 1,000 Reader, your arguement makes no sense: Frodo's journey to Valinor, while irrelevant, was also not his death. It was his ultimate triumph, a return to Eden-on-Earth, where he died a natural human death in his own good time. And Celebrian's retreat from Middle-Earth was, in the same way, NOT her death. It was the greatest tragedy to befall the world in the Second Age. (Celebrimbor's stupidity with the Rings, and the Numenoreans' stupidity with their ONE rule was just stupidity, and difficult to see as a tragedy, really) But that Celebrian's goodness and innocence was harmed by the corruption of Middle-Earth, that we learn that good things cannot last in a corrupt world, that is tragic. I say that Celebrian should survive, even win, as our own denial of the hopelessness of this Middle Earth.

As far as Middle-Earth was concerned, he/she was/were dead. I've even seen many wise members of these forums say that was Frodo's death in a sense. He was detached from Middle-Earth in pretty much every way, and that moment was the end of the line. Looking at Celebrian, the same applies.

Letting her win as you suggested wouldn't be honorable. That would be a pity win. A real survivor needs to win through their own skills, not because someone feels sorry for them.

It's the survival of the fittest, and she isn't fit.

[Firefoot]

++Elros

To recap my reasons (it was a couple days ago, now): as king, he basically did nothing except live for a really long time. The only things Elros is noted for are being related to Earendil, Elrond, etc., choosing mortality, being the first king of Numenor, and living a long time. At least Celebrimbor actually did something, however misguided he may have been in it. I'm not sure I want him to win, but I'd rather see Elros go first.

[Formendacil]

Day Twenty-three marked the beginning of the home stretch of Survivor: The Second Age. With only six candidates remaining, the race was tight. The voting fell as follows:

Celebrían: II

Celebrimbor: III

Elros: IIIII

He had chosen the path of mortality, of NOT living to the end of the world, so it is perhaps only just that while he had a long run in the game of Surivor, Elros Tar-Minyatur did not make it to the end.


Those Remaining:
Galadriel
Celebrían
Celebrimbor
Tar-Míriel
Anárion

Day 24 now commences, and I'mstill predicting a Galadriel win. And, for what is probably the first time in ME Survivor history, there are more female candidates than male.

Vote Away!

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

++Celebrían

She lacks initiative, letting things be done to her instead. Like being married to Elrond, being kidnapped by Orcs, being rescued by Elladan and Elrohir, and being taken in a ship to Valinor.

If we think of history as a sentence, she's never in the nominative case, always in the accusative or dative case.

Begone!

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

--Celebrían
++Galadriel

I just don't like Formendaga's prediction. Plus it has something to do with my strategy.

Seriously, what's with flaunting her osanwë ability? 'Oh, look, I can talk to you without opening my mouth. How cool is that? Love me and despair, you talentless fools!' Oh, dear, what a character.

[Firefoot]

++Galadriel

All right, she's lasted long enough now. And now there are enough female characters that I don't feel bad voting for one of them.

She appears to be too powerful. Look her up in UT and it's always "Galadriel's wisdom this" or "Galadriel's foresight that." Supposedly she's a match for just about everyone in body and mind - athletes, loremasters, etc. She's full of herself, too proud to give Feanor any of her hairs (a simple thing, yes?). But I think the truth is that Galadriel wrote all of this, and since she was suffering from an inferiority complex she had to make herself appear more powerful than she actually was. She has to show off just to prove that she is as good as the rest of them. And even if it is all true, she's still all too proud and she's still too powerful to stick around for the rest of this game. That's what happens in Survivor, after all: the strongest players are too strong so they get voted out.

[JennyHallu]

++Galadriel

For flirting with a dwarf, being cryptic when solid advice was needed, and for upstaging her husband whenever opportunity presented itself.

[Formendacil]

Day Twenty-four ended with some evil cackling from the Moderator. His malicious plan had succeeded! *Moans the lack of an Evil Smiley!* The voting fell as follows:

Celebrían: III

Galadriel: IIIII II

And so the male and female balance of the game was restored...

Those Remaining:
Celebrían
Celebrimbor
Tar-Míriel
Anárion

Day 25 now commences, and I'm gleefully pleased to see that Galadriel is gone. Vote away!

[Lalaith]

You all fell for it, didn't you...

Anyway, I'm getting worried about Anarion. He's just flying in under the radar here. And while I'm glad he's got this far, his contributions to Second Age life, to survival on the island and to the entertainment of viewers don't quite match up to the others.
++ANARION

[JennyHallu]

++Celebrimbor, for reasons previously stated and general massive hubris.

[Firefoot]

++Anarion

For not really contributing that much. He's not even a character that you feel like you can know, nor is he particularly controversial or interesting. When it comes right down to it, he doesn't deserve to win Survivor.

[Celuien]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

Day 25 now commences, and I'm gleefully pleased to see that Galadriel is gone.

My displeasure at losing both Celeborn and Galadriel again(!) is beyond words. And beyond the upset portrayed by the mad smiley, so I won't bother to use it.

++ ANARION

Firefoot and Lalaith are correct. What has he contributed? Not very much. How embarrassing would it be for this program to have a victor known only as the younger brother of another losing contestant?

[Formendacil]

Day Twenty-five ended in a tie. Due to certain rules about Day 26 and the Last needing three people (at least according to established traditon), the Moderator had to provide a tie-breaker.

++ Anárion

For being the least controversial candidate left. I want some fire at the end of the race!

(And yes, that is not Tolkien-based reasoning. I'm the Moderator. And I'm not requiring it today.)

The voting fell as follows:

Celebrían: II

Celebrimbor: IIIII

Anárion: IIIII I

Those Remaining:
Celebrían
Celebrimbor
Tar-Míriel

Day 26 now begins, and I advise ypu all to read the following:

RULES FOR THE LAST DAY:

On this, the last day, each voter is asked to vote for the candidates they want to WIN, not to see voted off. Retractable votes will remain acceptable. Tolkien-based rationale will be required for votes to stand.

You may now begin voting.

[Eonwe]

++Celebrimbor

In keeping with the spirit of the Second Age, that being redress of the wrongs of the First, and the uniting of the free realms in peace, Celebrimbor shows himself worthy of the crown of this competition.

Firstly, he turns from the corrupted path of his father and uncles, attmepting to maintain harmony with neighboring realms. Second, he starts the ambicious progect of forging the Three Rings of Power, which were instrumental in the founding of Rivendell, and Lothlorien, both crutial kingdoms by the time of the War of the Ring.

[The 1,000 Reader]

++Celebrimbor.


Celebrimbor is the only accomplished survivor left. He tried to make peace through actual peace, not war, and the three elven rings did more harm than good to Sauron.


The others have not done anything worthy to have gotten this far. Celebrimbor has created the elven rings, tools which helped save the Third Age, as well as the ages to come.