WWJ Attack of the Werecats:The ppuuuurrfect village

[Diamond18]

Alright, I'm back. And caught up. More or less.

First impressions: Wow, um, Nogrod, I wasn't expecting that. I mean, not that I was expecting anyone in particular to die, but I just thought they'd go with a quieter member. Noggie just strikes me as the kind of player wolves/cats leave alive to make a scapegoat and get lynched. However, I realize this might be bias coming from the last game I played with him. Also after reviewing how Nogrod brought up the possible hints in Valier's post, this does give somewhat of a reason. So I guess it's not that surprising.

Taking the rhyme analysis into consideration, we can look at it two different ways. Either Wilwa, or Lommy/Telperaca are culpable and got scared of Nogrod pointing it out. OR none of these people are cats and the cats knew killing Nogrod would create instant suspicion of Wilwa & Lommy/Telperaca. If, indeed, Nogrod's interpretation of Valier's rhyme was the reason for his death. Assuming it was, I am going to state that I personally believe Valier when she says she didn't actually leave any clues and was just playing with us. So, therefore I think it's most likely that the cats killed Nogrod in hopes of making us suspicious of Wilwa & Lommy/Telperaca.

Wilwa's vote for Sleepy and apology to Farael could be taken as suspicious. I agree about that. But I don't think I'm going to vote that way toDay because of my own personal theory that the cats want us to go for W/T/T because of Nogrod's interpretation of the rhyme.

Not sure, then, who to direct my vote towards. I voted Farael yesterDay but I believe Farael helped lynch Sleepy -- so unless they decided to sacrifice one of their very first Day, this makes me a little more wary of voting Farael.

I have to read over the posts more. This is just my off the cuff thinking after reading through all the posts from toDay once.

At any rate I have plenty of time to vote (I'll probably be around right up to the deadline tomorrow) so I'm not going to rush into anything right now.

[Diamond18]

Originally Posted by Diamond18

Wilwa's vote for Sleepy and apology to Farael could be taken as suspicious. I agree about that. But I don't think I'm going to vote that way toDay because of my own personal theory that the cats want us to go for W/T/T because of Nogrod's interpretation of the rhyme.

Blllerrgh. Sorry, this is a triple post, but I didn't think I should edit. I meant her apology to Sleepy not Farael. Sorry. It's been a long day and when I read through a slew of posts all at once my mind turns mushy.

[Glirdan]

Well, I will be at the Inn until about an hour before closing time. I'm sorry that I couldn't do an analysis of the other three like I promised. If someone else would like to, please, be my guest. I shall see you all later tonight.

[mormegil]

Why is everybody so quiet?

I would like to hear from many more especially Wilwa and I hope that she can respond to my doubts about her so as to be placated but I fear that if I am not I will vote for her, that is unless of course I find somebody that is more suspicious in my mind.

As far as those who have spoken thus far today I find Farael to be the only real odd one. He came out instantly with a vote for Eonwe. Perhaps he has a one track mind and will loose sight of everyone else once he is focused. I know I can get that way too . Anyway, Glirdan and Garin both seem fairly helpful as does Diamond but only to a slightly lesser degree. Currently I am inclined to believe both as innocents. Kitanna really only commented about the blasted rhyme, which I don't find particularly suspicious but I do find annoying. Let it be said clearly that if people are going on such a silly thing I perhaps would boycott this game altogether. So please let's just ignore it and move on.

[Diamond18]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Why is everybody so quiet?

I don't know about you but it's 10:30 PM where I am (CST) and 4:30 AM in GMT.

Not the most active time frames.

As far as those who have spoken thus far today I find Farael to be the only real odd one.

Yet he did vote for Sleepy yesterDay, and Sleepy voted for him. Perhaps a wolf-on-wolf tactic, but a very risky and reckless one. I'm not sure I believe the wolves would, as a group, be so crazy.

Kitanna really only commented about the blasted rhyme, which I don't find particularly suspicious but I do find annoying. Let it be said clearly that if people are going on such a silly thing I perhaps would boycott this game altogether. So please let's just ignore it and move on.

You seem awfully pushy on this matter.

Valier's the one who pointed us to her post for hints. Not only in Tol-in-Gauroth Jr. but in her second post in this thread (where she insisted we read the narration carefully because we never know what we might find). She did retract this and seem to regret having said it, but it was out there and cannot be truly taken back. Are you saying that the Cats definitely did not kill Nogrod because of his posting about the rhyme? For any conceivable reason?

Even considering that her narratives mean nothing special, we have to take into account that yesterDay and last Night her hint that they could (and the players reactions to that hint) may have affected the way the Cats thought and acted.

I have to say I do not like you telling us what to pay attention to and what to wipe from our minds.

[Alcarillo]

Well, I'll be heading to bed in an hour or so. I'll vote for

++Wilwa

For being generally suspicious. I was also swayed by the possibility Glirdan brought up concerning Sleepy's rapid response to the (now obsolete) clues in the rhymes, that Sleepy had spotted a couple of his fellow werewolves on that list. If I have a chance later, I might change my vote depending on what other arguments are brought up, but right now, with night soon approaching where I live, I'll take a chance and vote for Wilwa.

[mormegil]

Sorry but this post is all OOC

You seem awfully pushy on this matter.

I do feel rather strongly and perhaps that is why I am coming across as such. I apologize for sounding strong or rude but my feelings are genuine. I had PMed Valier as soon as I saw it and didn't agree with the whole affair. I feel that it destroys the spirit of the game to give hints, now she has said that it was all done in jest and was not actually meant to be serious. I believe her but what bothers me is that some seemed to be too focused on that and perhaps I'm letting my feelings get the best of me. For that I am sorry.

Are you saying that the Cats definitely did not kill Nogrod because of his posting about the rhyme? For any conceivable reason?

I am saying neither. I understand your point but I would choose to focus on other factors...one with more substance perhaps. Such as Wilwarin's final post.

Even considering that her narratives mean nothing special, we have to take into account that yesterDay and last Night her hint that they could (and the players reactions to that hint) may have affected the way the Cats thought and acted.

Again I agree and choose to ignore this the best I can. Perhaps it's a bit naive of me but I think we ought to focus on those things that are not part of the narative.

[Garin]

Okay
I still view Diamond as suspicious.
I see Wilwarin as suspicious.
Glirdan, makes me uneasy. Basically, Glirdan, Wil, and Sleepy all had related Avatars. I'm trying to ignore this, but it is difficult.
Morm and Thin haven't left my sights.
BED TIME, see you on the flip side.

[Diamond18]

Morm:

I understand why you don't like supposed clue dropping. I didn't like it either and I'm glad Valier has retreated from that. But if the Cats allowed it to affect them, I'm not going to let it stop me from tracking them down that way. As far as I see it, analyzing their possible motives for killing Nogrod is true to the traditional spirit of the game, even if it takes into consideration his posts dealing with the rhyme.

I think the fact that a few of us seem to differ in our opinions on whether or not to completely ignore a portion of yesterDay's events isn't a very good reason to boycott the game entirely. Everyone has different syles of play and I just don't think it's "playing nice" to say, basically, "everyone play my way or I'm not playing." Which was how I saw your last post.

Garin:

I didn't know I was high on your suspects list before. Perhaps I missed something.

Edit -- X-Posted with Kitanna. Obviously, I agree with her... it's all about the reactions, my precious. (Hey, I'm in character. Gollum the Barmaid, hoo hoo hee hee hah hah.)

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Kitanna really only commented about the blasted rhyme, which I don't find particularly suspicious but I do find annoying. Let it be said clearly that if people are going on such a silly thing I perhaps would boycott this game altogether. So please let's just ignore it and move on.

I'm not using that rhyme as anything, I'm just saying look how Sleepy reacted to it when Norgrod put in his two cents. Norgrod used it to suspect Sleepy and Sleepy jumped right on it. I'm not saying the rhyme is anything to go on because I knew yesterday it wasn't, but I still think reactions to it are worth looking into.

[Formendacil]

Far be it from me to actually defend someone in one of these games (looks too lupine- or feline- you know), but I think Morm, that you completely missed the point of what Kitanna was saying.

As she said just now, the point of the matter was not the clues Valier had supposedly left, but Sleepy's reaction to them.

And, speaking of reactions, your own reaction to this whole matter is rather interesting. I am completely in agreement with you that Moderator Clues are rather unsporting. I also happen to think that Double-Lynching is unsporting. Your attitude on the subject is... overdone.

Unless you're a Werecat trying to hide from the village by drawing attention to the Clues Scandal, so as to keep the attention on the villagers already associated with that matter.

EDIT: X-posted with Cousin Diamond.

[Eonwe]

Ok, quick post, as I have to go to work in ... ... 8 minutes...

I haven't read anything above, so can't speak to that.

Wilwa of course is a bit suspect for showing up so late yesterday. But not really that much, as that would be pretty brazen. But, of course, you don't rule it out.

That is all. Sorry to be so rushed, but such is the curse of life...

[wilwarin538]

Here's my little defense of myself.

I told you yesterDay in my first post I would be back at 3ESt, but something happened and I ended up back at 5EST. So I had 1 hour before voting. I got stressed, especially once I became one of the last ones to vote. So I went through every scenario, if Sleepy was guilty and I voted for him, how much suspicion would I get? If he was innocent and I voted for him, if Fareal was guilty and I voted for him, and so on, thinking about what would give me the least amount of suspicion. I decided that voting for Sleepy would be better then not voting at all. I obviously was wrong since I have all the suspicion and not Glirdan.

So that's all I can say. I tried to make the best choice I could yesterday, thining about my own safety toDAY, and I guess I made the wrong choice. I obviously would have been better not voting, which I guess is what Glirdan realised.

Ok that was a lot of talking, I'm going to not defend myself anymore on this matter and just hope you all believe me.

ToDay I will hopefully be back at 3EST, but obviously anything can happen.