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Elu Ancalime · 04-01-2006, 09:00 PM

ell, thats another problem with transferrence from book to movie. In the book, notably the Scroll Gandalf reads in Minas Tirith, states that Isildur took the Ring "as a token for his brother, father, and house to be an heirloom" or something. It implied he didnt want to use the Ring for its powers, I he knew about them. The movie with his "no..." makes him seem more.....gollumish.

Kuru's right. The Disaster of the Gladden Fields reveals much about the family and friendship of The House of Elendil, and it shows was not an Ar-Pharazon guy.
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Tuor in Gondolin · 04-03-2006, 10:30 AM

Silmarillion and UT Isildur is certainly a more sympathetic and
complex figure then PJ's. For general information on Isildur and
the line of kings try:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isildur

04-04-2006, 01:40 AM

Refering to the link Tuor of Gondolin suggested
I quote :-

Isildur settled on the east bank of the Anduin and established the city of Minas Ithil (which would later be named Minas Morgul), as well as the province of Ithilien. However, in 3428 Sauron took Minas Ithil, and Isildur fled northwest to Gil-galad and his father in Arnor, leaving Anárion to rule over Gondor.

From this text I assume that Isildur though proud and valiant of the race of Numenor was a bit like Boromir proud and arrogant , it is said that he fled to Arnor leaving behind Anaron to rule Gondor when the Witch King retook Minas Ithil .
Thus I believe Isildur was valiant but was mortally afraid of The Dark Lord .
I cannot find any record of this but from his behaviour it suggests so , But his brother Anarion was like Faramir , less arrogant but more wise .

04-01-2006, 09:00 PM	#1
Elu Ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anador Posts: 476	ell, thats another problem with transferrence from book to movie. In the book, notably the Scroll Gandalf reads in Minas Tirith, states that Isildur took the Ring "as a token for his brother, father, and house to be an heirloom" or something. It implied he didnt want to use the Ring for its powers, I he knew about them. The movie with his "no..." makes him seem more.....gollumish. Kuru's right. The Disaster of the Gladden Fields reveals much about the family and friendship of The House of Elendil, and it shows was not an Ar-Pharazon guy. ________ Osteoporosis forums Last edited by Elu Ancalime; 03-03-2011 at 11:36 PM.

04-03-2006, 10:30 AM	#2
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Silmarillion and UT Isildur is certainly a more sympathetic and complex figure then PJ's. For general information on Isildur and the line of kings try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isildur __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.' Last edited by Tuor in Gondolin; 04-03-2006 at 10:36 AM.

04-04-2006, 01:40 AM	#3
Lord of Nazgul Guest Posts: n/a	Refering to the link Tuor of Gondolin suggested I quote :- Isildur settled on the east bank of the Anduin and established the city of Minas Ithil (which would later be named Minas Morgul), as well as the province of Ithilien. However, in 3428 Sauron took Minas Ithil, and Isildur fled northwest to Gil-galad and his father in Arnor, leaving Anárion to rule over Gondor. From this text I assume that Isildur though proud and valiant of the race of Numenor was a bit like Boromir proud and arrogant , it is said that he fled to Arnor leaving behind Anaron to rule Gondor when the Witch King retook Minas Ithil . Thus I believe Isildur was valiant but was mortally afraid of The Dark Lord . I cannot find any record of this but from his behaviour it suggests so , But his brother Anarion was like Faramir , less arrogant but more wise .