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Old 04-02-2006, 03:13 PM   #1
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What about Fornost?
That brings up a question that frustrates me. Would the new Arnor "capital" be Annuminas or Fornost? If Aragorn decided to remove from Minas Anor soon after the War (which would be odd because there would be no rule in Gondor, the current sate that is more populus) would he rebuild Annuminas, the more 'Numenorean' descended city, or Fornost? It is odd that Annuminas was abandoned in the first point, but from what was said in the Return of the King, Gandalf said Fornost would be repopulated, but also objectionaly it was stated the King would dwell by Evendim for a time.
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Old 04-03-2006, 12:29 AM   #2
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would he rebuild Annuminas, the more 'Numenorean' descended city, or Fornost? It is odd that Annuminas was abandoned in the first point, but from what was said in the Return of the King, Gandalf said Fornost would be repopulated, but also objectionaly it was stated the King would dwell by Evendim for a time.
LOTR, Appendix A:
There were fourteen Chieftains, before the fifteenth and last was born, Aragorn II, who became again King of born Gondor and Arnor. 'Our King, we call him; and when he comes north to his house in Annúminas restored and stays for a while by Lake Evendim, then everyone in the Shire is glad.

This quotes implies for me, that Aragorn reignes Arnor from his house in Annúminas

There is also a quote from HoME: Sauron Defeated: For I shall be surprised if the King doesn't bit us to his great House by Lake Evendim. - said Sam to Eleanor.

The following is only speculation: ;-)
Arnor was first ruled from Annúminas, until it fell to ruin. Then the King moved to Fornost. I think, that Aragorn's intention was to re-establish the Northern Kingdom as it was in the time of Elendil, re-establish its glory. And the reason of the moving to Fornost was not a glorious one. It went along with the Fall of Arnor.
In this case it is more likely, that he would make Annúminas the capital of the North. A fortiori when he has his Great House there.

Another interesting quote concerning the Resurrection of Arnor comes from RotK, Many Partings:
'You will be let alone, Barliman,' said Gandalf. 'There is room enough for realms between Isen and Greyflood, or along the shore lands south of the Brandywine, without any one living within many days' ride of Bree. And many folk used to dwell away north, a hundred miles or more from here, at the far end of the Greenway: on the North Downs or by Lake Evendim.'

In the meaning of Gandalf, it is probable, that Minhiriath (or at least the shores) and Enedwaith would be populated anew.
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:09 AM   #3
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About the repopulation of Arnor , I think Osse has said much in his post .
I think though the King had the land of Arnor in his keeping it would be many years still before he would repair it of the destruction it had to endure at the hands of the Witch King , he would first ofcourse restore his Kings seat in Gondor and then perhaps he would turn to Arnor .
After its restoration , then perhaps the Rangers that still dwelt in Imladris or in the surrounding lands ( those that were protecting the Shire ) , will settle there and then as the years lengthened maybe then more men from Gondor and the Southern fiefs would move to Arnor as Land got scarce .
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The following is only speculation: ;-)
Arnor was first ruled from Annúminas, until it fell to ruin. Then the King moved to Fornost. I think, that Aragorn's intention was to re-establish the Northern Kingdom as it was in the time of Elendil, re-establish its glory. And the reason of the moving to Fornost was not a glorious one. It went along with the Fall of Arnor.
In this case it is more likely, that he would make Annúminas the capital of the North. A fortiori when he has his Great House there.
Since Annúminas was the City of Elendil, it makes sense that Aragorn would make it the center of the realm in the north, just as it was at the end of the Second age..

This is my speculation ....
The reasons of the decline of Annúminas and the moving of the royal throne to Fornost I think had to do with the decline in population especially after the war of the Last Alliance where many were slain, and the slaying if Isildur and his party as well in the Gladden Fields. Annuminas endured for a time but without the people to keep it up, it slowly fell into disuse and decay. They removed to Fornost because the fortress was easier to defend especially with the lesser numbers of men they had to defend with. But there still had to be a reasonable number of men to battle each other with , and later the Witch King until the fall of Arvedui in 1974 of the Third age.
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