Eorling Mead Hall Planning/Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Kath · 04-05-2006, 09:14 AM

Guess Kara will take room 12 then please! Plans look really good Jenny.

littlemanpoet · 04-11-2006, 09:28 AM

Interesting! No need to change your post, Folwren.

So do we immediately jump to the conclusion of horse thieving?

As to punishment, I'm betting that that website may have info on that; you know, the one Nerindel supplied and that Bethberry got the wattle and daub info from. I can't remember what it's called off hand, but I have a link to it in my introductory post which you can link to in my sig.

Anguirel · 04-11-2006, 10:09 AM

Well, I'm hoping you'll allow Manawyth a fair defence. Maybe a boring old trial by a jury picked by the Eorl, maybe an ordeal by fire or ordeal by combat...

In terms of punishment, here is a pertinent link. Open theft of something as valuable as a horse, particularly in Rohan, might well be death or mutilation as a bootless crime...though Gandalf seems to have got away with it, admittedly...

Folwren · 04-11-2006, 12:26 PM

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So do we immediately jump to the conclusion of horse thieving?

As to punishment, I'm betting that that website may have info on that; you know, the one Nerindel supplied and that Bethberry got the wattle and daub info from. I can't remember what it's called off hand, but I have a link to it in my introductory post which you can link to in my sig.

If somebody recognizes Manawyth's horse as their own, who's not to jump to horse thieving? Anquirel said in his first post that that horse didn't belong to him!

We'll allow Manawyth a fair defence, have no worries about that.

Not trial by ordeal, please. I hate that. It's so stupidly unfair.

Gotta run.

-- Folwren

Folwren · 04-11-2006, 07:56 PM

LMP, can Thornden please not be sent away quite immediately? Please, please? He'll go almost as soon as the boy comes 'round. I promise he'll get all his work done! (Sounding like a begging child here

)

He'd like to see that he's got a chance of surviving. And Taralphiel and I had an idea, in which it's somewhat necessary that Thornden and Lys meet eachother sometime in the early part of his arrival. . .

-- Folwren

littlemanpoet · 04-11-2006, 09:14 PM

Folwren, Thornden can do whatever you want him to do. There are always consequences for actions, but they can be headed off. For example, if you want Thornden to stick around, have him do it, and have him put together a set of reasons why he needs to stay around, armed with which he goes to Eodwine and gives the Eorl his speal.

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Well, I'm hoping you'll allow Manawyth a fair defence. Maybe a boring old trial by a jury picked by the Eorl, maybe an ordeal by fire or ordeal by combat...

The way Anglo-Saxon law worked was by witness. The highest rank witness always won the case. Plain and simple. So if a freeholder brings an accusation against Manawyth, and Eodwine, an Eorl, speaks in Manawyth's defense, Manawyth is considered innocent. If Eodwine speaks his guilt, he's considered guilty. If Eodwine chooses not to speak, then Manawyth's fate is in the hands of the highest ranking person he can find to lend support to his case. That's how Anglo-Saxon law worked. Scary, eh? Now, here in semi-enlightened Rohan, things may fun not quite so deterministically.

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If somebody recognizes Manawyth's horse as their own, who's not to jump to horse thieving? Anquirel said in his first post that that horse didn't belong to him!

But of course. But it's not the only thing one may think. However, it is the most likely.

Celuien, yes on the stove. Please!

Oh! One more thing. Firefoot, I'm choosing not to post right now as all I have in mind is Eodwine's answer to Léof's query, which is that if Æðel requests it, he is to ride to Meduseld and ask for the aid of the Healer (who as a nonplayer character is beginning to gain a rather substantial "non"-role, and ought to have a name ... .any ideas?)

Alcarillo · 04-11-2006, 10:03 PM

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(who as a nonplayer character is beginning to gain a rather substantial "non"-role, and ought to have a name ... .any ideas?)

A while ago, when Marenil had his heart attack, Garwine ran to Meduseld to fetch a healer. I think I named him Hrethel, if I remember correctly.

Edit - Check out what I just found! Leof's got his own trading card!

littlemanpoet · 04-12-2006, 04:00 AM

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A while ago, when Marenil had his heart attack, Garwine ran to Meduseld to fetch a healer. I think I named him Hrethel, if I remember correctly.

Hrethel it is. Good name.

Celuien · 04-12-2006, 04:21 AM

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Celuien, yes on the stove. Please!

Guess everyone's tired of cold sandwiches.

Alrighty, he'll get to work on that stove. Three days should have it just about done. And no need to wait for lime mortar to set for a week before using the stove - he's using dry set and carving to make the blocks fit...

Hmm. Tonight is sort of busy. Maybe late this afternoon, or earlier if my team stays as low on the workload as it's been recently.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 04-12-2006, 07:57 AM

Just checking in; I'm still alive. Following along. Good stuff, everyone. If anybody feels the need to incorporate Saeryn and Degas, Saeryn's feelings toward Manawyth are protective now: she accepted him, ergo everybody else should, and she won't be happy to hear of horse stealing. Degas is ambiguous about him. Saeryn's mostly been working, getting things in place for the hall's guests, all that sort of thing. Degas is helping out where needed. You know... the typical.

Folwren · 04-12-2006, 08:57 AM

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Folwren, Thornden can do whatever you want him to do. There are always consequences for actions, but they can be headed off. For example, if you want Thornden to stick around, have him do it, and have him put together a set of reasons why he needs to stay around, armed with which he goes to Eodwine and gives the Eorl his speal.

Oh, well, that's likely. I don't want him to disobey intentionally and get marked as such. He's got to be more responsible than that. He'll have to go, even though he won't want to.

Actually, would this be a good way to bring up the conflict that you've mentioned before? One reason to get Jenny's character in as the actual steward? Because Thornden runs on impulse occasionally (as I assume he would if he decided to go directly against orders just to see if Lys survives).

What do you think? Or are you going to be vague and stuborn like other RPers I've written with and say 'You decide, and whatever you write, I'll decide what my character'll do'? I hope not.

-- Folwren

JennyHallu · 04-12-2006, 09:11 AM

Or he goes and is just so distracted by worrying over Lys he makes some significant mistakes.

I think this would be a good place to introduce conflict, and agree with you there. But I'm going to be irritatingly vague and suggest that how you introduce that conflict is up to you. It is, after all, your character.

littlemanpoet · 04-12-2006, 09:35 AM

I also choose to be irritatingly vague. How else, my dear Folwren, are you going to be creative on your own account? Play with it! Have fun! I promise to let you know what won't work, but only after you write something.

Folwren · 04-12-2006, 10:00 AM

*frowns in frustration*

I knew it! I just knew it! Neither of you oblige to be helpful and I am left exactly where I started, just as I expected - not know what to do. Well, you'll have to allow me a little time to think over it. Carry on, everyone. . .I might get a post up later on this afternoon.

-- Foley

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I promise to let you know what won't work, but only after you write something.

Have you any idea how embarrassing this can be? 'Sorry, old chap, that ... doesn't work. Go back and edit it.'

04-05-2006, 09:14 AM	#1
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Guess Kara will take room 12 then please! Plans look really good Jenny. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

04-11-2006, 10:09 AM	#3
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Well, I'm hoping you'll allow Manawyth a fair defence. Maybe a boring old trial by a jury picked by the Eorl, maybe an ordeal by fire or ordeal by combat... In terms of punishment, here is a pertinent link. Open theft of something as valuable as a horse, particularly in Rohan, might well be death or mutilation as a bootless crime...though Gandalf seems to have got away with it, admittedly... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso Last edited by Anguirel; 04-11-2006 at 10:16 AM.

04-11-2006, 07:56 PM	#5
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	LMP, can Thornden please not be sent away quite immediately? Please, please? He'll go almost as soon as the boy comes 'round. I promise he'll get all his work done! (Sounding like a begging child here ) He'd like to see that he's got a chance of surviving. And Taralphiel and I had an idea, in which it's somewhat necessary that Thornden and Lys meet eachother sometime in the early part of his arrival. . . -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

04-12-2006, 07:57 AM	#10
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Just checking in; I'm still alive. Following along. Good stuff, everyone. If anybody feels the need to incorporate Saeryn and Degas, Saeryn's feelings toward Manawyth are protective now: she accepted him, ergo everybody else should, and she won't be happy to hear of horse stealing. Degas is ambiguous about him. Saeryn's mostly been working, getting things in place for the hall's guests, all that sort of thing. Degas is helping out where needed. You know... the typical. __________________ peace

04-12-2006, 09:11 AM	#12
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Or he goes and is just so distracted by worrying over Lys he makes some significant mistakes. I think this would be a good place to introduce conflict, and agree with you there. But I'm going to be irritatingly vague and suggest that how you introduce that conflict is up to you. It is, after all, your character. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

04-11-2006, 09:28 AM	#2
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Interesting! No need to change your post, Folwren. So do we immediately jump to the conclusion of horse thieving? As to punishment, I'm betting that that website may have info on that; you know, the one Nerindel supplied and that Bethberry got the wattle and daub info from. I can't remember what it's called off hand, but I have a link to it in my introductory post which you can link to in my sig.

04-12-2006, 09:35 AM	#13
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	I also choose to be irritatingly vague. How else, my dear Folwren, are you going to be creative on your own account? Play with it! Have fun! I promise to let you know what won't work, but only after you write something.