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Farael · 04-05-2006, 10:57 AM

Then why didn't the narration ask for a dream from the Seekers

Roa_Aoife · 04-05-2006, 11:08 AM

While the lack of an "s" on that end does beg a question, Valier specifically named the "Lone werecat" probably in answer to Kath's remark about the mythomaniac, and wondering if we would be notified if the birthday dreamer became a Cat.

Roa_Aoife · 04-05-2006, 11:21 AM

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Lynch someone else tomorrow but keep in mind that should Formendacil trully be the seer, he'll be dead two nights from now. If he is and the cats don't kill him, he will have found a werecat by then and so they'll loose anyway....

I'd like to add that if I've misinterperted the narration, and Form is a cat, then the other Cat is most likely Kath, since he removed her from the list, thus protecting her until the end, when it would be too late.

What you haven't taken into account is that if you're right, there are two Cats, giving us even less time than you suspect. Assuming you're innocent and correct, and we lynch you, then the Cat(s) would kill Eonwe or Kath (assuming she isn't a Cat herself), giving us 4 villagers to 2 Cats. If we lynch another person from Form's list who's innocent, and the Cat(s) kill anyone, that brings it down to two on two and the game is theirs.

If you're a Cat, and the game doesn't end when we lynch you, then we know Form is a Cat.

Farael · 04-05-2006, 11:39 AM

Valier was saying "Lone Werecat and Seeker" for a couple of nights... it is possible that she did not want to give any clues with regard to what the b-day dreamer had dreamt of.... which makes a heck of a lot of sense, or else she'd be helping either the village (by letting us know we have TWO werecats now) or the cats (By letting them know that there are TWO seers).

I still think Formendacil's act is very fishy.... I dont' like it one bit. Lynch me if that's what it takes for you to believe I'm just a hobbit, I don't care... but keep an eye on Formendacil.

Roa_Aoife · 04-05-2006, 12:49 PM

You make a good point.

Actually, here are my thoughts on suspicion:

Alcarillo hasn't been around. If he pops up today, he'll remain on my radar, but in my experience, players with such low activity are just innocents who don't have time to give proper attention to the game. I hate this kind of play, but it's unlikely he's a Cat.

I'm almost positive that Morm's turn around on Eonwe shows her innocense. If Form is telling the truth, then I can't know about Garin, but if not, then my bet is Garin is also innocent. Morm strikes me as the intelligent sort, and I don't think he would make an unknown appear innocent when he knew his posts would be looked at in the event of his death.

That leaves me and Farael on the list of unknowns. I know that I'm not a Cat, even though the rest of you don't. So that leaves Farael in my mind. If he isn't a Cat, then my next look would be Kath. Others still living can look at Garin. I wish someone else would do the analysis, too, but I'll do what I must.

If Kath is a Cat, then I know Form is a Cat. If Kath isn't a Cat, then I know Garin or Alca is a Cat.

So, since we can't be certain of Form, I suggest we lynch Farael today. If he isn't a Cat, we lynch Kath. In the meantime, if Form is telling the truth, he can dream about Garin.

If he's telling the Truth, that would reveal either Garin or myself as the final Cat. If he isn't, then we'll know when Kath is lynched.

Scenario 1: Form and Farael are telling the truth
We lynch Farael and find him innocent
Eonwe Dies (You're the only positive innocent. Sorry dear.)
Form Dreams of Garin and learns his identity. Since we can't be sure of his word, We lynch Kath, who would show herself to not be a Cat, and we would know Form is telling the truth
Form most likely dies
We lynch whoever Form revealed

Scenario 2: Form is lying, but Farael isn't
We lynch Farael and find him innocent
Eonwe Dies
We lynch Kath, who would then reveal herself to be a Cat, and we would know Form is lying
Anyone could die here
We lynch Form and the Game is over

Scenario 3: Form and Farael are lying
We lynch Farael and prove he's guilty, but the game continues
Anyone dies, since we would know Form was lying at this point
We lynch Form and end the game

Note: These scenarios ignore Alcarillo (See first paragraph)

Edit: Adding the other scenario, which I believe to be the correct one.

Scenario 4: Farael is lying and Form isn't
We lynch Farael and the game ends

Roa_Aoife · 04-05-2006, 12:57 PM

I have to head out, and I most likely won't be on again till after Voting closes, so:

++Farael

Farael · 04-05-2006, 01:05 PM

Go for it guys... I'm innocent, but there is only one way you all will find out.

And remember, I'm not saying Form is a cat FOR SURE.... But I have my doubts and I wouldn't put it past him to pull such a bluff.

04-05-2006, 10:57 AM	#1
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	Then why didn't the narration ask for a dream from the Seekers __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

04-05-2006, 11:08 AM	#2
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	While the lack of an "s" on that end does beg a question, Valier specifically named the "Lone werecat" probably in answer to Kath's remark about the mythomaniac, and wondering if we would be notified if the birthday dreamer became a Cat. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

04-05-2006, 11:39 AM	#4
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	Valier was saying "Lone Werecat and Seeker" for a couple of nights... it is possible that she did not want to give any clues with regard to what the b-day dreamer had dreamt of.... which makes a heck of a lot of sense, or else she'd be helping either the village (by letting us know we have TWO werecats now) or the cats (By letting them know that there are TWO seers). I still think Formendacil's act is very fishy.... I dont' like it one bit. Lynch me if that's what it takes for you to believe I'm just a hobbit, I don't care... but keep an eye on Formendacil. __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

04-05-2006, 12:49 PM	#5
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	You make a good point. Actually, here are my thoughts on suspicion: Alcarillo hasn't been around. If he pops up today, he'll remain on my radar, but in my experience, players with such low activity are just innocents who don't have time to give proper attention to the game. I hate this kind of play, but it's unlikely he's a Cat. I'm almost positive that Morm's turn around on Eonwe shows her innocense. If Form is telling the truth, then I can't know about Garin, but if not, then my bet is Garin is also innocent. Morm strikes me as the intelligent sort, and I don't think he would make an unknown appear innocent when he knew his posts would be looked at in the event of his death. That leaves me and Farael on the list of unknowns. I know that I'm not a Cat, even though the rest of you don't. So that leaves Farael in my mind. If he isn't a Cat, then my next look would be Kath. Others still living can look at Garin. I wish someone else would do the analysis, too, but I'll do what I must. If Kath is a Cat, then I know Form is a Cat. If Kath isn't a Cat, then I know Garin or Alca is a Cat. So, since we can't be certain of Form, I suggest we lynch Farael today. If he isn't a Cat, we lynch Kath. In the meantime, if Form is telling the truth, he can dream about Garin. If he's telling the Truth, that would reveal either Garin or myself as the final Cat. If he isn't, then we'll know when Kath is lynched. Scenario 1: Form and Farael are telling the truth We lynch Farael and find him innocent Eonwe Dies (You're the only positive innocent. Sorry dear.) Form Dreams of Garin and learns his identity. Since we can't be sure of his word, We lynch Kath, who would show herself to not be a Cat, and we would know Form is telling the truth Form most likely dies We lynch whoever Form revealed Scenario 2: Form is lying, but Farael isn't We lynch Farael and find him innocent Eonwe Dies We lynch Kath, who would then reveal herself to be a Cat, and we would know Form is lying Anyone could die here We lynch Form and the Game is over Scenario 3: Form and Farael are lying We lynch Farael and prove he's guilty, but the game continues Anyone dies, since we would know Form was lying at this point We lynch Form and end the game Note: These scenarios ignore Alcarillo (See first paragraph) Edit: Adding the other scenario, which I believe to be the correct one. Scenario 4: Farael is lying and Form isn't We lynch Farael and the game ends __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen Last edited by Roa_Aoife; 04-05-2006 at 12:51 PM. Reason: forgot a scenario

04-05-2006, 12:57 PM	#6
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	I have to head out, and I most likely won't be on again till after Voting closes, so: ++Farael __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

04-05-2006, 01:05 PM	#7
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	Go for it guys... I'm innocent, but there is only one way you all will find out. And remember, I'm not saying Form is a cat FOR SURE.... But I have my doubts and I wouldn't put it past him to pull such a bluff. __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.