An Unlikely Theory: Blue Wizards as Tom and Golberry - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Legolas · 04-06-2006, 10:23 PM

Saruman and the Blue Wizards ventured into the east, and Alatar and Pallando never returned. Gandalf's remarks about Bombadil imply a long-standing relationship and knowledge of Tom.

Gandalf refuses possession of the Ring in order to avoid its corruptive power; Saruman is obsessed with it, and tries to make his own. These two, whom I presume to be 'upper scale' Maiar, are affected by the Ring, so one would expect Alatar and Pallando to be affected as well. Tom is not affected by it.

If you're interested, Tolkien did offer some speculation about the fate of the Blue Wizards. I've compiled those writings here in our Middle-earth FAQ.

Thalion · 04-07-2006, 03:50 PM

If Tom and Goldberry were the blue wizards, why didn't Galdalf say this? He certinaly would recognize and know someone of his own order!

..plus they would have come to the White Council as other members of the Istari...

04-06-2006, 10:23 PM	#1
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	Saruman and the Blue Wizards ventured into the east, and Alatar and Pallando never returned. Gandalf's remarks about Bombadil imply a long-standing relationship and knowledge of Tom. Gandalf refuses possession of the Ring in order to avoid its corruptive power; Saruman is obsessed with it, and tries to make his own. These two, whom I presume to be 'upper scale' Maiar, are affected by the Ring, so one would expect Alatar and Pallando to be affected as well. Tom is not affected by it. If you're interested, Tolkien did offer some speculation about the fate of the Blue Wizards. I've compiled those writings here in our Middle-earth FAQ. __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art. Last edited by Legolas; 04-07-2006 at 03:01 PM.

04-07-2006, 03:50 PM	#2
Thalion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tol Morwen Posts: 82	If Tom and Goldberry were the blue wizards, why didn't Galdalf say this? He certinaly would recognize and know someone of his own order! ..plus they would have come to the White Council as other members of the Istari... __________________ "But a new day is come. Here I will stay at peace, and renounce name and kin; and so I will put my shadow behind me, or at the least not lay it upon those that I love."