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04-09-2006, 10:08 AM

Ah.. this is a curious notion. Any of the times I've gotten to Lothlorien, I've experienced a feeling of mystery... something beautiful and alluring that draws one in as opposed to the kind of frightening things that may draw one in. I get the 'scary vibe' from Moria more then Lothlorien... both draw me in.

I'll soon be re-reading Fellowship of the Ring for analytical purposes more than anything else, so I'll definitely take a look at Galadriel and the Galadhrim in general and see if I can view them in this light in context. I can see how Galadriel might be kind of scary, in any event. I see her more as melancholy, though.

Legolas in spandex · 04-09-2006, 10:30 AM

Yes, I see what all of you are saying, but I find Galadriel to certainly be a wise and somewhat powerful being despite her melancholy. I just seem to find Lothlorien to be somewhat unwelcoming as it is welcoming. The people there are actually kind of sad it seems.

04-09-2006, 11:09 AM

I agree... they definitely seem sad to me. I've always sensed that from the Galadhrim... they seem to be the ones who take their immortality in a sullen way... having to live to see all the destruction of their world, etc. In that manner, Lothlorien would seem unwelcoming. Yet it's also welcoming at the same time. Good point you bring up, there.

Elu Ancalime · 04-09-2006, 04:34 PM

I do agree it seemed that Lorien was presented as sad, almost alienated. The combonation of Gandalf's death, the fact that Sauron was winning, and that elves were waning anywho made for a bit of a funeral. I think PJ captureed this very well also. It would seem like one of the galadhim would look at you in the eyes they could see that whereever you were going there you would be going into to trouble, and in a kind of shake your head way.
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yavanna II · 04-10-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Legolas in spandex

The people there are actually kind of sad it seems.

I didn't think so when I read the chapter, and even thought lorien was a sort of sacred place. But after finishing UT and the Sil, I thought it might be some sort of melancholic... I thought maybe Galadriel was sort of homesick for Valinor, because of her lament in Loren...

The Eldar all had see-longing in their hearts, did they not, even if they were in the forests? And they were all doomed to be so, because ME is not their place.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 04-10-2006, 12:09 PM

Lothlorien to me represents existential anxiety. You know it's silly and pretentious-in-a-roundabout-way, but it somehow drags you in!

It's beautiful and melancholy just for the sake of it.

04-09-2006, 10:30 AM	#2
Legolas in spandex Wight Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 102	Yes, I see what all of you are saying, but I find Galadriel to certainly be a wise and somewhat powerful being despite her melancholy. I just seem to find Lothlorien to be somewhat unwelcoming as it is welcoming. The people there are actually kind of sad it seems. __________________ "I want to die in my sleep, like my grandfather... not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car."

04-09-2006, 04:34 PM	#4
Elu Ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anador Posts: 476	I do agree it seemed that Lorien was presented as sad, almost alienated. The combonation of Gandalf's death, the fact that Sauron was winning, and that elves were waning anywho made for a bit of a funeral. I think PJ captureed this very well also. It would seem like one of the galadhim would look at you in the eyes they could see that whereever you were going there you would be going into to trouble, and in a kind of shake your head way. ________ Ferrari tipo 500 specifications Last edited by Elu Ancalime; 03-03-2011 at 11:44 PM.

04-10-2006, 12:09 PM	#6
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Lothlorien to me represents existential anxiety. You know it's silly and pretentious-in-a-roundabout-way, but it somehow drags you in! It's beautiful and melancholy just for the sake of it. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

04-09-2006, 10:08 AM	#1
Rainmaker Guest Posts: n/a	Ah.. this is a curious notion. Any of the times I've gotten to Lothlorien, I've experienced a feeling of mystery... something beautiful and alluring that draws one in as opposed to the kind of frightening things that may draw one in. I get the 'scary vibe' from Moria more then Lothlorien... both draw me in. I'll soon be re-reading Fellowship of the Ring for analytical purposes more than anything else, so I'll definitely take a look at Galadriel and the Galadhrim in general and see if I can view them in this light in context. I can see how Galadriel might be kind of scary, in any event. I see her more as melancholy, though.

04-09-2006, 11:09 AM	#3
Rainmaker Guest Posts: n/a	I agree... they definitely seem sad to me. I've always sensed that from the Galadhrim... they seem to be the ones who take their immortality in a sullen way... having to live to see all the destruction of their world, etc. In that manner, Lothlorien would seem unwelcoming. Yet it's also welcoming at the same time. Good point you bring up, there.