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Old 04-12-2006, 04:29 PM   #1
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Well, Farael the many-coloured! And as I thought that the loss of my dog was the worst thing to happen...

I'll just have to sleep over this.

But just a question for everyone to think about during the day and the oncoming night: we will not have to decide about this today, but tomorrow we will have to.

How do we make the best use of these shaman-dreams, going to random people? My basic instinct would say, we just come forwards with them, one by one, as we have them. The orcs possibly won't get very far with lying about them (one "found out" -lie - when the dream goes to an orc that tries to save a fellow - would get another orc lynched immediately?) - and the chance of them having a dream is about 1/4.

In the end, I think, it comes down to the question, how much do we believe, that the stars are not against us (with bad luck, we will have just distorted dreams), and how boldly we villagers want to play? We might have good chances with this way of dreaming, even better than in a normal "seer-game" - as the revelation burden can be shared: the revelation not revealing the shaman her/himself?

I admit these thoughts are not thought to the end, but maybe - tomorrow - we all have some balanced ideas about the subject, and can devise the best plan to get rid of this pestilence that has fallen upon our village.
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Old 04-12-2006, 08:04 PM   #2
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How do we make the best use of these shaman-dreams, going to random people? My basic instinct would say, we just come forwards with them, one by one, as we have them. The orcs possibly won't get very far with lying about them (one "found out" -lie - when the dream goes to an orc that tries to save a fellow - would get another orc lynched immediately?) - and the chance of them having a dream is about 1/4.
I'm not so sure about coming forward right away. I can't really say why, but I just have a feeling we should wait and see before acting, unless an innocent is in true danger of being lynched.
Celiun has stated part of what I think on the subject:
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Not a bad plan, except for one thing. If we reveal dreams as we have them, then the Orcs can pick off any known innocents, one-by-one, rendering the dreams useless.
There's something else that bothers me about coming right out aside from that though. Anyone in the villager is able to have the dream, even the wereorcs. I feel if we reveal the dreams as they come and a wereorc has one he/she can manage to bend it to their will, without having to lie. I can't quite explain what I'm getting at, so I'll stop before I ramble myself into a hole.
Also with that plan the shaman is just as likely to get the dream as anyone. So if we reveal the dreams every day if the shaman actually gets one and reveals it we're out on the dreams.
It's probable a villager will only get one dream (if that) the entire game. If one comes forward with a dream of the orc and is innocent and the orcs spare him/her that night the villager may think he/she is an orc and lynch an innocent villager. This is just a terrible downfall to the shaman dreams altogther. [/ramble]
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