Tol-in-Gaurhoth XX: Wereorc I: The elves cannot hide themselves much longer.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Well I got back from school a long while ago but I haven't posted till yet because the 'Downs was down for me.

I'll probably do a list later but for now, Finde and Grend seem the most orcish to me.
All of a sudden Zali is starting to seem suspicious to me, self-admitted ranger, why is she still alive? Take her out and the orcs would be free to kill who they wish but wait... maybe shes been left alive in hopes that we'd begin to suspect her? I know this has been gone over before but all of a sudden I don't find Zali to be so much the hero she was on Day 2.

First I'd like to address this post made by Grend

Haha, Nogrod, every post you make me very nervous...your posts strengthen the chance of your being innocent or your being an orc, and very, very good one at that. I cannot shake the notion that you are trying (as an orc) to develop bonds with ordinary villagers. You already have Sleepy's trust, because you revealed his innocence, which I believe to be true. Could it be you are just trying to get to me next? I am willing to see you try to support your innocence and, if you really are innocent, to try to come to the realization that I am innocent as well. I can't waste anymore time! I must vote soon.

I've trusted Nogrod since before he had the dream I find this an invalid point. He had no need to develop a bond with me since there already is one, at most posting that just weakened the bond rather than strengthened it and now with Diamond's death I assure you its been severed completely.

And what do you meant 'get me next'? Do you mean Nogrod is trying to get everyone to like him so that nobody'll vote for him? Pardon me but I find this to be an absurd theory. It would take someone very charismatic or really desperate to try something like that, no offence to Nogrod but as I said in ME Idol, you lack the X-Factor. And with the current confusion I'd say its not the orcs who are desperate. Don't get me wrong, Nogrod can put up a convincing arguement but when it comes to making friends of everyone in the village? Is that even plausible?

Now then, back to Finde and Grend. They've been playing rather well and honestly I find them to be suspicious. Grend has seemed eager this whole game and her recent post of minimizing the list of suspects based on what the shaman says just seems weird to me. As Roa stated, even in a normal game its not much better. As for Finde shes just seemed kind of jumpy. On the last Day she relied on JennyHallu to pick who to vote for, now I know that other people did this as well but I didn't find her reasoning to be all that reasonable.

Sorry for the intrusion but heres something about Grend that caught my eye.

Post #313 she states shes reluctant to start a band-wagon. Why? Is it because she a band-wagonning an innocent would draw the wrong attention and she knows that Nogrod is an innocent? (Due to her being an orc) Also, in the post she quoted, Nogrod was suggesting that Caran played a part in it. Could this be one orc coming to the aid of the other?

In the same post she says the she wouldn't want people to vote someone based on her reasons. I just find it weird that someone would openly be so unsure of themselves. At this stage, to me at least, it looked as if she wouldn't vote Nogrod but then later (Post #339) she does vote for Nogrod and says she doubts he'll get lynched. Now she could have just jumped onto the Kitanna band-wagon but she chose to go the safe way and vote Nogrod.

And today (Post #354) it seems that shes dropped all her suspicion for Nogrod. This contradicts with her saying that she wouldn't cross Nogrod off her suspicion list anytime soon. Nogrod said that he'd defend himself tommorrow if they were still alive, however I don't believe thats happened as of yet.

I'd prefer to wait for Nogrod's post before making any more comments on Finde.

There would be three remaining ones that I would still be unsure of- Naria, Roa, and Caranlondien.

I'd also like to say something about this. If you used the shaman as a basis to determine who is innocent and who is not then know this, on Day 2 the only people who didn't have suspicions against me were Nogrod, Roa and Diamond. True nobody had really made any theories against me but note, at a point it would seem that everyone would have been ready to vote for me except for Nogrod, Roa and Diamond.

*pinches self*

Still alive. I didn't expect that at all. I really thought that either Zali or I would be toast last night. Still, it's good to be here.

Oh? The orcs won't kill Zali because (a) she is one of them or (b) her not being dead yet has given rise to some suspicion. As for yourself, I doubted the orcs would go for you just because I made a claim that I believe you're the shaman. I didn't expect them to kill me either but I think they'd prefer to kill a proven innocent.