Tol-in-Gaurhoth XX: Wereorc I: The elves cannot hide themselves much longer.

[Caranlondien]

Yeah, at the end of Day Four I completely messed up, I think drawing some of the suspicion that would be my undoing. And that list of players there in my first PM is very helpful, isn't it?

I had completely forgotten our discussion on this Night... If only we had killed Naria! But neither of us remotely suspected her as the Shaman at this point, and as she was drawing suspicion, she seemed like a bad choice. Zali, who were you protecting Night Four?

Also, I have to say that at this point, despite certain mistakes we made, Roa's calmness is what got us as far as we went. I was rather jumpy (i.e., pacing around my room wringing my hands... okay, maybe not quite that bad)

Sleepy and Nogrod, you had me totally confused!

NIGHT FOUR

Originally Posted by Caran

Yeah, um... Sorry!
I completely messed up at the end there; panic. I hope it doesn't come under too much scrutiny toMorrow.

I also hope that my continuing to mention you didn't add to Findeasea's reasons for suspecting you; I began to think, as the day wore on, that I seem to be acquiring more suspicion than you, and it's quite likely if one of us dies, it will be me. I thought that if I die, my keeping you under some suspicion when I could have just dropped it would give you some credit.

On the plus side, at least two innocents died today.

As for Zali, should we kill her, since the Shaman is still around?

Speaking of the Shaman, what is Sleepy up to? Is he trying to make us think he's the Shaman? Or is he reallly the Shaman, and not being so subtle?

Another thought: might Nogrod be the Shaman, and Sleepy was his first dream? He may have just decided to reveal it today, pretending it was last Night's dream.

Caranlondien: orc
Nogrod: ? (Shaman?)
Grendelien: ?
Findëasëa: ?
Celuien: ?
Zali: Ranger (?)
Diamond: ?
Naria: ?
Sleepy: ? (Shaman?)
Roa_Aoife: orc

Originally Posted by Roa

I'm actually thinking we shoudl stick with the Zali plan. At worse, the shaman will send a dream of Zali to someone, revealing who she is, at best the shaman picks someone else to dream of. I'm fairly positive that sleepy isn't a gifted- if he was he would've known better than to try and get killed on Day 1. I actually belive Sleepy was right when he mentioned Celuien, but I'm betting Zali will protect her tonight. Celuien was the only one who mentioned suspicion of Jenny on Day 1, which would've led to a dream on Night 2. So the question is, do we call Sleepy's bluff? It's possible that Nogrod is the seer, but I don't think he's that straight forward. Not only that, but someone would have had a dream last night, and no one contradicted him, not to mention he was very suspicios of Sleepy on Day 1.

Naria, Diamond, and Findeasea are all unsuspected kills. I'm going to review Day 1, and look for someone who was protecting someone else.

Originally Posted by Caran

Okay, I like the idea of waiting on Zali. We can end the Ranger-ing whenever we want, but until then, as long as we're careful in our choice of nightly kills, she won't be able to do much, and might just continue to gain suspicion. Plus, if the Shaman decides to dream about Zali, they'll have to waste a dream on her (rather than on one of us).

Good point about Sleepy's suicidal tendencies on Day 1. As for Celuien, she has certainly been thoughtful, and perhaps lighter with the jokes than she was in the last game I played in.

Hmm...

Killing Naria could help us get Grendelien lynched eventually, especially with Nogrod's suspicions of her.

Originally Posted by Roa

I don't know, Naria is drawing suspicion herself. (Mostly thanks to Jenny.) What about Diamond? She's getting more dangerous and less suspicious everyday. If you don't respond to this by 5 ish, I'll go ahead and send Naria's name to Farael.

Originally Posted by Caran

True, Naria's more suspicious-looking than Diamond. I agree, then, let's kill Diamond.

Originally Posted by Roa

I'm sending this to both Caran and Farael:

++Diamond

Have a nice day!

Originally Posted by Roa

The current stand is 2 to 7 villagers (Counting Diamond as dead)

If we both manage to survive the coming day, it will be 2-6, and then the night's kill will bring us 2-5, I think that would be a good time for me to come out and say I am the true ranger, and Zali's been lying to us. If they take the bait it wil be 2-4, and then 2-3. I'll be a unanimous lynch the following day, which will make it 1-3, then 1-2, the following day. At this point it will be up to you to look innocent enough and one other person look guilty enough.

This, I think is the best case sscenario. Waiting too long on the Zali plan might cause it to backfire on us. What do you think?

Originally Posted by Caran

Okay...yes. Although depending on who's under more suspicion by then, you might be the one left. The longer the Shaman stays around, the more dangerous this is... but that's obvious.

The way things are looking, I wouldn't be surprised if Naria or Grendelien were lynched toMorrow. Although I'm sure Findeasea will make a case explaining her vote for you - how should I react? I'm completely lost on this, as I think that no matter what I do, it'll look suspicious.

Originally Posted by Roa

The chances of the Shaman escaping us much longer are very slim. Findeasea may come up with a case against me, but I'm going to do my best to beat it. Don't panic, you'll be fine. Your reaction to Nogrod can just be passed off as indignation at being called a liar. In this village, no one really looks more suspicious than anyone else, so you'll be okay as long as you stay calm. As for what to do if a case comes against me: Don't do anything.

Don't post until a definite mood can be gathered from the crowd. If people are focusing elsewhere, stay with your distrust of me but don't push too hard. If people are definitely looking to lynch me, then vote for me. That's all that can be done. If that happens, I'm fairly sure that you'll be safe for some time. I suggest going ahead and killing Zali then, since people will disregard my suspicions. You're playing beautifully, so don't worry. Just stay calm and thoughtful, and you'll do fine.

Originally Posted by Caran

Thanks for the reassurance; I love this role, but it's quite a nail-biting experience!

I won't be able to post until kind of late tonight (RL maybe 11 or 12 pm) anyway, and when I do, I won't be able to say much of substance. I'll wait 'til morning, and see how the village's mood is. So, good luck toMorrow, and may our village lynch an innocent!

[Caranlondien]

We had the Shaman-suspects narrowed down to three, and the Shaman was in there. And the only one we didn't suspect was the Shaman!

And that Night, you sure did have fun playing with our minds, eh Farael? First he crushed our dreams, then got our hopes up... and the next Day crushed our dreams again.

Also, please note the excellent code I come up with towards the end. I know, I know, I was meant to be a spy.

NIGHT FOUR

Originally Posted by Roa

Why, yes, I am related to Superman, why do you ask?
Well, that was a close shave. Don't worry, you did great. Had I gone down, you were the one that would've sealed my fate, so you made the best choice. I think tomorrow, I will "reveal" myself as the Ranger. I'm positive that Nogrod and Sleepy will support me. I think it would make the most sense if you were swayed by it, since most others will be, but don't be an ardent supporter.

Now, about tonight's kill- we certainly have a lot to choose from. I would suggest not Naria- something about Zali's vote is sending up a warning signal. We need to get the Shaman tonight or the next, or we'll be in trouble. I'm going to take a look through the thread. Here are the possibilities:

Grendelien: village whittler
Celuien:lampwright
Naria:The grower of magnificent flowers

One of these three is the Shaman. All three of them suspected me. So I will likely be dreamed of tonight. We need to choose carefully tonight.

Originally Posted by Caran

That was the most nail-biting, nerve-wracking, adrenaline-rushing end of a Day, ever. ::Wipes sweat off forehead:: I am loving this!

I tend to suspect Celuien most of being the Shaman, but that's just an initial, gut reaction. I'll look over the posts, too, to see what I can find. What are the dreams we know? I guess that we have to figure out who would have chosen to dream about certain people each night.

Originally Posted by Roa

The dreams were as follows: Jenny night 2, Sleepy night 3, Nogrod night 4.

Day one, an innocent would've been the most likely dream, so we should look fo rsomeone trying to exonerate someone else.

Originally Posted by Roa

OKay, I'm actually think it's Grendelien. Celuien seems to have accepted Nogrod's innocense early on, so it's unlikely she would dream of him. Grendelien on the other hand was quite suspicious of him during Day 3. Day 1, she was suspicious of anyone who voted Diamond18 (which could be her as a Shaman having dreamed of Diamond18 and trying to protect her, and would also lead her to dream of Jenny.) What do you think?

Originally Posted by Caran

I noticed that Celuien made a (very) mild sort of analysis of Naria early on, saying she thought wanted to give her more time (i.e., telling us not to lynch her). Then toDay, first thing, she made a defense of Naria. The thing is, I think Zali might be protecting her toNight.

So, I don't know what to think...

Originally Posted by Roa

Zali is most likely going to protect Nari. I doubt that Naria is a gifted- her behavior states otherwise. I've had doubts about Celuien being the Shaman for a little while - her defense of Nogrod on Day 1 would seem to strike the idea of her dreaming of him on Day 3, but I'll look again.

There was a PM here I forgot to save, but I think I said that I still thought Celuien was the Shaman.

Originally Posted by Roa

So, she had been suspecting Sleepy before this. It's also clear that she had reason to suspect Jenny for her attack on Nogrod.
And then:

Reason enough for her to dream of Nogrod. What say you?

Originally Posted by Caran

She's looking pretty Shaman-ish. Do you think Zali will be protecting her?

Originally Posted by Roa

Again, I doubt it. Zali's not very subtle, and I think her vote for Naria was an attempt to make us think she wouldn't be protected. I believe Celuien has come under just enough suspicion that she won't be an expected kill, and I also think that she was already protected last Night. Either way, I think it's worth the risk.

Originally Posted by Caran

Okay, let's go for it then. Whatever happens, it's been fun.

Originally Posted by Roa

And the kill shall be...
++Celuien
Have a nice Night! (Farael, what happened to that Death Scene?)

Oh, question for you Farael- if the Shaman is killed during the night, is there still a dream?

Originally Posted by Caran

If he answers you on this, please do send it along to me. Oh, how am I going to make it through the next 24 hours...

Originally Posted by Roa

*pouts* Not a hard time, yeah right.... It's not as if our whole game depends on not being found out tomorrow, oh no, not at all..... That's not really fair- if it was a seer, there would be no dream. It's like our last minute salvation has been erased. The strategy of Werewolf forever destroyed. Caran, unless one of us gets the dream, I'm ka-blewy. *sigh* But as the mod goes, so goes the game. That's just what we must accept when we sign up. I'm lodging a formal protest though.

Originally Posted by Caran

Oy. Unfair! Maybe, maybe, maybe she didn't dream about you. I'm assuming, then, that she is the Shaman? I mean, the way he phrased it...

Well, anyway... ::more pouting:: It's not over yet. We shall prevail! We can do this.

Now, toMorrow we'll know for certain if Celuien was the Shaman. Assuming she is, if one of us does get the dream, what should we say? The best case scenario I can think of is that Celuien is the Shaman and one of us gets the dream, in which case you could say you dreamt of Zali and she's an orc.

This, I suppose, is where code words could come in. If I get the dream, I should use some word or some phrase or something that will signal it to you, so you know it's safe to go ahead and lie. This probably won't happen, but if it does, it'll be very helpful. It should be something that I won't just do accidentally (like starting 4 sentences in a row with the same letter or something like that)... And also something that has nothing to do with dreams or anything, because that might be seen through.

Originally Posted by Roa

Actaully another pm from Farael seems to be discouraging that line of thought (though I wouldn't put it past him to just be messing with me. He never said she wasn't, just strongly implied it.) But anyways, how about something like, "But we aren't kablewy yet!" I could do the same. All the same, I've been working on the lie to lynch Zali for Days now. I think I'll stick to that. You just keep your head down- you're below suspicion right now, and it's best it stay that way. Now, for tomorrow- if I fail or get lynched, kill Zali, she's of no furhter use, and will only hinder us. Then I suggest Gren or Naria as the Shaman. Of course, next you have to kill Sleepy or Nogrod. Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by Caran

Okay. If, by some miracle, Celuien is the Shaman and I get the dream, I will mention something about frogs in my first post (in reference to Celuien, of course). I know it's a lame code, but I'm tired and having trouble thinking. Doubt we'll get to use it anyway...

If you have any other thoughts/suggestions/revelations, PM me! Good luck!

Originally Posted by Roa

Nevermind
He said he was just kidding- he wants to keep the suspense going till Day. So, with the Shaman dead, if I get lynched tomorrow, kill Zali, then kill either Nogrod or Sleepy (whichever kill would cast the least suspicion on you, leaving alive the one that trusts you most.) From there you should be fine for the final day, as long as you stay calm.

Should I survive, we'll have killed two gifted in a row (go us) and kill Nogrod (the louder more dangerous one) the next night. I'll be lynched unanimously the following day. (I'll be providing the entertainment. ) Naturally, kill Sleepy. Then it's a simple matter of convincing either Naria or Grendelien that you are innocent. I would suggest waiting it out, and voting with whoever votes first (unless it's for you, of course).

Originally Posted by Caran

Oh, hooray! I'm sure Farael is enjoying his chance to play with our minds...

Now I can finally go to sleep. Once again, good luck!

[Caranlondien]

And finally, Night Five, I was left all alone...
But it was a blast!

NIGHT FIVE

Originally Posted by Caran

"Oy vey", says the last orc
This is what we should have done a long time ago...

++Azaelia

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Caran

I mean, when my brother was a wolf, Farael seemed certain of his guilt from Day 1 without having any real case, and he turned out not to be the seer.

AIWENDIL!!!!

Hahahaha sorry, I can't stop laughing at that one. It was a little bit of luck and a little bit of gut... but boy was I cheering when I saw he was a wolf. Anyway, back to our scheduled programing.

[Nogrod]

And Caran, just once more: thank's for sharing the orc-posts with the rest of us. They nicely brought back different situations, and showed your angle in to the game. Very interesting indeed.

[Farael]

I can't believe I just went through all that writing. I must say it was lots of fun playing around with Roa. She sounded rather sad when I told her I was just kidding

But you wereorcs had a good plan in mind... I was half-hoping that you'r Zali plan would work out, but Naria foiled it at the last second. One more night and I think Caran would have cruised to an easy win.

Just one thing though... Caran, how would you have known that Celuien was the Shaman if you got a dream? The dreams didn't say who was the Shaman, they only said who was the dreamed person.

And also, I'm afraid that for those of you whom I did not write up a dream, I will not at all. I did one or two "good" dream write-ups but then because of... let's say time concerns... I would only PM something along the lines of

You got a dream! Aiwendil is a werewolf.

Yet Zali, I will do your death scene sooner or later =)

[Diamond18]

And I take back what I said about Were-Orcs. It actually worked quite well. And, as we are shortly to be terrorised by Were-Ducks, well Orcs do seem rather fearsome in comparison ...

*Quiet, evil laughter comes from Diamond's corner...*

Thank you for posting all the Orc conversations, Caran! I had forgot all about my "Roa and Caran must be Orcs" post, ha!

[The Saucepan Man]

... but boy was I cheering when I saw he was a wolf.

You weren't cheering when you saw who the last Wolf was, though ...

(Sorry, couldn't resist).

[Caranlondien]

Originally Posted by Farael

Just one thing though... Caran, how would you have known that Celuien was the Shaman if you got a dream? The dreams didn't say who was the Shaman, they only said who was the dreamed person.

Actually, at that point we we operating under the assumption Celuien was the Shaman and we had succeeded in killing her. So we were going to go forward with Roa's Ranger-impersonation, and the code I worked out was in case I got the dream, so Roa could say she had gotten it and dreamt that Zali wasn't the Ranger, to add to her credibility.

Or was that not what you were talking about?