WWJ VIII ~ Things That Go "Quack" In The Night

[Sleepy Ranger]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

It's not a matter for elsewhere. It's a question of strategy. We are not going to find ducks by shyly questioning each other about points of rules ettiquette and tickling each other with pads of cotton wool.

It is quite a matter for elsewhere. I was making a post on how to go about accusing people in TiG (Jr.). Its been applied (quite succesfully) in a Model United Nations I was in. Did I say that we question each other shyly? Not that I re-call. Yes, go ahead and say that in the United Nations they don't catch evil werecreatures set on killing you but the matter is the same, debating and (to an extent) arguing. Direct attacks could offend a person, I know well enough I've been left with a bitter taste in my mouth due to certain things said in this (WW in general) game.

It is of no concern to this game, I will merely be making a suggestion (part request) and if people wish to follow it in this game then all the better. If you wish to criticize me for this, kindly wait till after I've posted in TiG (and Jr.) before you do.

[Anguirel]

There, there, I'm sure your argument was very good, Sleepy-would you like biscuits with your camomile tea?

((Still, it could be a matter of academic approach. You're being taught to encourage co-operation, love of humanity, responsibility, and world peace. I am writing an Italian essay tonight entitled "Why I Hate England", "Perche Odio Inghilterra"...))

[Anguirel]

Mith, it wasn't me who took issue with your use of the term hypocrisy, but Roa herself. My involvement was confined to correcting your spelling.

EDIT: Oops. That's meant to read Roa's spelling.

I do, though, think it rather slack of you, in view of the stunning wereperformance your repertoire now contains, to stress your honesty and insist that we, without proof, accept it. I find your appeal moving, but nowadays I don't get moved. Covered with too much, ah, fashionable Imperial costume, I suppose...

[Lalaith]

Correcting Roa's spelling, wasn't it, not Mith's....

[Anguirel]

Exactly, exactly, blast, forgot who I was talking to. My noodle is fried. Sorry Mith.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Mith, it wasn't me who took issue with your use of the term hypocrisy, but Roa herself. My involvement was confined to correcting your spelling.

I do, though, think it rather slack of you, in view of the stunning wereperformance your repertoire now contains, to stress your honesty and insist that we, without proof, accept it. I find your appeal moving, but nowadays I don't get moved. Covered with too much, ah, fashionable Imperial costume, I suppose...

I didn't say otherwise. And I think I spelled it right originally. ButI think you asked at some point if I suspected anyone other than DSOU and I reminded you of stating my suspicion of Roa. I feel like that chap on House who had a medical condition that meant his words only made sense to him.

Oh great - I am damned regardless... Spawn suspects me cos she remembers me being a bad wolf, you do becasue you remember me as a good one. If you must bring up old games.....

[Anguirel]

Well, it is after all not as if I'm playing a different Mith every time...

...is it??? (My mind is filling with disturbing imaginings of thousands of Mith-doubles...)

[Lalaith]

A question for Spawn: have you been doing your analyses as the mood takes you, or focusing just on those villagers you suspect/find intriguing?

[Mithalwen]

I would say that like, Goran Ivanisevic, there are three of me. Good, bad and emergency as far as WW games go. In life the cool, efficient but utterly bored book-keeper and administrator, the inner poet, and the shade of the teacher who thought she had a vocation but instead had breakdown.

[Nogrod]

I’ve been looking those who are left out from Morm’s (own analysis)list concerning Nilp. If we leave out those who actually voted for Nilp – just for this analysis - and those who a) said nothing, b) said little or unsubstantial, or c) defended him, it leaves four people out of the inquiry: Morm himself, Spm, Roa and Lalaith. Their thoughts about Nilp – and their actual votes were as follows:

Spm #22
I also think Nilp's self-vote to be extremely unhelpful. It tallies with his regular suicidal approach, and so tells us nothing. And he knows by now that few are likely to vote for him for it, precisely because it is his standard behaviour. Unhelpful, unenlightening and, in my view, decidedly suspicious. As matters stand, I may just vote for him, precisely because of that.

Spm #26
But that could be precisely what he wants us to think. The fact is that his self-vote does not give anything away, as it is what we would expect from him. It’s unhelpful, even in future days when Day 1 ramblings might reveal more. That’s why I am suspicious of him.

Spm #73
I mentioned my suspicions of Nilp and his self-vote earler, and they hold.

Spm #99
At the moment, my other main suspects are Nilp, for reasons stated earlier (although I am inclined to give him a chance and see how he acts tomorrow),

Spm #113
And I am not inclined to consider saving Nilp or Sleepy (and would not be even were I not suspicious of them myself). If they get lynched, it’s their own silly fault for random/suicidal voting.

VOTING: Mithalwen (10th vote – Nilp in trouble, but still Mith’s first voter)
10. SpM for Mith (Nilp-3, Kath-1, spawn-1, Nogrod-1, Glirdan-1, Sleepy-2, Mith-1)

Roa #25
3. I find Nilp's self-vote annoying. Does he actually become more helpful if he survives Day 1? If so, leave him. If not, get rid of him.

Roa #103
Maybe if we let Nilp live, he'll be useful. If he pulls the same stunt tomorrow, I'll probably vote for him, and advocate his banishment from Werewolf. (People like that just take up space and make the game less fun. And if he is a Duck, I find it terribly unsporting and he should be ashamed of himself.)
10 minutes in between these posts...
Roa #104
I really don't want Nilp or Sleepy to die, since I'm curious as to what they'll do on Day 2. Especially Nilp.

VOTING: Glirdan (11th vote – Nilp still in trouble, Getting Glirdan nearer, but not voting Sleepy with 2 already)
11. Roa for Glirdan (Nilp-3, Kath-1, spawn-1, Nogrod-1, Glirdan-2, Sleepy-2, Mith-1)

Morm #76
Now Nilp is generally unhelpful on Day 1 and if his desire is to die I may encourage it though he may not be a duck I think it's possible. How are we to know if he continually votes for himself, and as was pointed out, would do so this time to avoid suspicious.

Morm #95
Nilp makes good cannon fodder but is it an easy way out? But then again he could be guilty. ........... I'm really fairly clueless right now so as to spread things out a bit.

Morm #106
I find Sleepy's sudden vote for Nilp as odd. I know the whole 'self-preservation arguement' so don't bother. However notice how it came immediately after he became tied with Nilp. Obviously Nilp is a person that would be easy to get lynched today so it does seem highly suspect to me.

VOTING: Nogrod (5th vote, very safe...)
5. Morm for Nogrod (Nilp-2, Kath-1, spawn-1, Nogrod-1)

Lalaith #79
I am veering towards Nilp - as tradition or no, I don't approve of suicide and find it singularly unhelpful under the current circumstances. It is also a good mask to hide behind.

Lalaith #97
I've been pondering on the Nilp question and I think I'll give him another chance. After all, if he did break the tradition, that would look suspicious, too...

VOTING: Glirdan (6th. Vote – widening the suspects, not of utmost help to Nilp)
6. Lalaith for Glirdan (Nilp-2, Kath-1, spawn-1, Nogrod-1, Glirdan-1)

* The vote-counts by Spm...

I don't know, whether their actual votes or the voting situation should be counted straightforwardly - our ducks are probably cunning enough not to try to save their companion and leave a track there (I've just mentioned them to see the situation, where they voted).

Judge yourselves. I'll try to do some thinkiing on these - and other matters too - quite soon.