WWJ VIII ~ Things That Go "Quack" In The Night - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Anguirel · 04-29-2006, 04:03 AM

On Kath's vote...I don't find it particularly remarkable. Frankly, before we saw Spawn's aspyxiated corpse, to many of us Glirdan looked as Goosish as the current Prime Minister of Great Britain, er, Tol Eressea.

Mith made so much sense she convinced her fiercest enemy, Sauce. I was sure to the point of being coruscated with guilt; I saw her revelation coming, suddenly seeing her as an Owl. She had the hints. By contrast Glirdan was blunt and abrupt, and begged the question-if you're a bleeding Owl, why haven't you been wise yet? Though of course you do get quiet Owls, Glirdan still didn't have much cred when he hooted so suddenly.

So those like Kath, who probably, like me, sympathised with Mith and felt bad, were obviously going to disregard Glirdan's assertion unless they used the Saucine logic that killing Spawn was the only way of being sure.

Well, we've killed Spawn, and I don't know about you Cailin but I'm about as sure as a shantytown...

Mithalwen · 04-29-2006, 04:35 AM

Before you kill me.... let me speak.

I berated Sapwn for her inconsistent reading of the instructions. Now I suggest you all do.

I was astonished to read the events after my departure and "interested" to see how some people seem to think of me. While in a way to be lynched would give me blissful release from the Kafkaesque nightmare this game has become. It won't help us win.

At first I thought that Glirdan was doing a heroic protection act, was the hawk, trusting my judgement on Spawn and saving me for another nights dream. Then I thought again about Diamond's secret. I know I have been telling the truth. I do not believe Glirdan to be malicious. Therefore either he is lying with good intention or we are both telling the truth.

I am not sure about revelaing my dream. sinceI didn't htink I had a hop of being believed I satisfied my own curiousity and found an innocent. They aren't widely suspected and if you don't give me a chance they are clearly safe today.

My main suspects are now Roa, if she is still with us, Sleepy Ranger and above all
Jenny Hallu. Her attack on me was rather vitriolic. I will be here for about 45 mins. I f anyone shows signs of listening I will come back later. If not I will stay at home and enjoy the long weekend ratehr than struggle in to Bournemouth on the bank holiday.

I am not a crack pot despite my profession.

Mithalwen · 04-29-2006, 04:39 AM

Sorry I see ROa has left.

Also, may I remind you that a lot of the negativity about me was stirred up by the WEREDUCK, Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant. You all put a lot of faith in her "analyses" although why cluttering up the thread by repeating what anyone could have more easily read for themselves if it weren't there helps I am not sure.

I can't believe I am saying this but I hope the Pan man is around before too long. He at least seems to be thinking outside the box at last.

Kath · 04-29-2006, 04:46 AM

I'm listening Mith. Stupid as it may sound to everyone I'm still not convinved by Glirdan, even after spawn was revealed to be a Duck. It could have been a lucky guess, it could have been the result of a dream, but I'm willing to hear from both potential Owl's, if only to try and clear this all up!

It's a shame we lost Roa toDay, though I think it helps a little in that she was one of the ones people were unsure over, and so we've managed to avoid a Day arguing over her role.

As to Lalaith, it seems an odd kill given the number of apparently 'proven' innocents around, as well as two possible Seers to choose from. Perhaps it was intended as a safe kill in order to avoid suspicion?

Mithalwen · 04-29-2006, 04:50 AM

Kath bear in mind, if you work on the hypothesis that I am telling the truth, that the Duck knows I am innocent and a likely candidate to be lynched today. HHe also knows about Glirdan - either he is Glirdan, he thinks Glirdan is the protected owl, he thinks glirdan is a protective hawk. Either way no point in killing either of us last night.

Best option to kill someone who is universally regarded as innocent.

NB He doesn't mean I definitely think the duck is male

Mithalwen · 04-29-2006, 05:02 AM

Forgive me one more statistic but without yet revealing last nights innocent, I will say that I don't "KNOW" about any of the remaining female villagers other than myself. However I think Lote is the least probable followed by, Kath, Cailin, Valier and JennyHallu in order though JH is a long way ahead of Valier in my suspicions.

Three males are unaccounted for (in my book) but one of those is Glirdan. If Glirdan is the Duck it is the most astounding piece of werebeast play ever surely -but that doesn't make it impossible.

Cailín · 04-29-2006, 05:19 AM

Well, Mithalwen. I am more confused than ever. It would be nice to be able to believe you both, but ah, what do we know? Anyway:

Quote:

Best option to kill someone who is universally regarded as innocent.

Um, I hope you do not intend to kill off one of our known innocents? Could we not better kill the non-Owl / Goose / Protector we all suspect the most?

Your suspicions are similar to mine.

I am forced to leave now and let this game go for a couple of days. Diamond18 has not given me permission to do this yet, but I fear I have no choice and you will figure it out anyway... I hope no one will be mad. See the TiG Junior thread for more info.

Good luck, villagers. See you on the other side.

Anguirel · 04-29-2006, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I am not sure about revelaing my dream. sinceI didn't htink I had a hop of being believed I satisfied my own curiousity and found an innocent. They aren't widely suspected and if you don't give me a chance they are clearly safe today.

Later she said she didn't "know" anything about any of her fellow female villagers. This is rather a shame as all my main suspects are currently female. I do hope she didn't waste her dream on me.

Glirdan · 04-29-2006, 08:12 AM

Ang, I'm going to say this now and for everyone to hear and not care about the consequences: I have absolutely no patience to deal with you or this right now. I had a very bad week all week and now you come and say that I don't know how the game works! This is insulting!! Very insulting! So, if you want to lynch me, be my guest!! I really couldn't care less now that I've seen what you all think. Now, I'm going to go off and cool down because if I stay any longer, I will go balistic. I'll come back later. Good day!!

04-29-2006, 04:03 AM	#1
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	On Kath's vote...I don't find it particularly remarkable. Frankly, before we saw Spawn's aspyxiated corpse, to many of us Glirdan looked as Goosish as the current Prime Minister of Great Britain, er, Tol Eressea. Mith made so much sense she convinced her fiercest enemy, Sauce. I was sure to the point of being coruscated with guilt; I saw her revelation coming, suddenly seeing her as an Owl. She had the hints. By contrast Glirdan was blunt and abrupt, and begged the question-if you're a bleeding Owl, why haven't you been wise yet? Though of course you do get quiet Owls, Glirdan still didn't have much cred when he hooted so suddenly. So those like Kath, who probably, like me, sympathised with Mith and felt bad, were obviously going to disregard Glirdan's assertion unless they used the Saucine logic that killing Spawn was the only way of being sure. Well, we've killed Spawn, and I don't know about you Cailin but I'm about as sure as a shantytown... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

04-29-2006, 04:35 AM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Before you kill me.... let me speak. I berated Sapwn for her inconsistent reading of the instructions. Now I suggest you all do. I was astonished to read the events after my departure and "interested" to see how some people seem to think of me. While in a way to be lynched would give me blissful release from the Kafkaesque nightmare this game has become. It won't help us win. At first I thought that Glirdan was doing a heroic protection act, was the hawk, trusting my judgement on Spawn and saving me for another nights dream. Then I thought again about Diamond's secret. I know I have been telling the truth. I do not believe Glirdan to be malicious. Therefore either he is lying with good intention or we are both telling the truth. I am not sure about revelaing my dream. sinceI didn't htink I had a hop of being believed I satisfied my own curiousity and found an innocent. They aren't widely suspected and if you don't give me a chance they are clearly safe today. My main suspects are now Roa, if she is still with us, Sleepy Ranger and above all Jenny Hallu. Her attack on me was rather vitriolic. I will be here for about 45 mins. I f anyone shows signs of listening I will come back later. If not I will stay at home and enjoy the long weekend ratehr than struggle in to Bournemouth on the bank holiday. I am not a crack pot despite my profession. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

04-29-2006, 04:39 AM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Sorry I see ROa has left. Also, may I remind you that a lot of the negativity about me was stirred up by the WEREDUCK, Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant. You all put a lot of faith in her "analyses" although why cluttering up the thread by repeating what anyone could have more easily read for themselves if it weren't there helps I am not sure. I can't believe I am saying this but I hope the Pan man is around before too long. He at least seems to be thinking outside the box at last. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

04-29-2006, 04:46 AM	#4
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	I'm listening Mith. Stupid as it may sound to everyone I'm still not convinved by Glirdan, even after spawn was revealed to be a Duck. It could have been a lucky guess, it could have been the result of a dream, but I'm willing to hear from both potential Owl's, if only to try and clear this all up! It's a shame we lost Roa toDay, though I think it helps a little in that she was one of the ones people were unsure over, and so we've managed to avoid a Day arguing over her role. As to Lalaith, it seems an odd kill given the number of apparently 'proven' innocents around, as well as two possible Seers to choose from. Perhaps it was intended as a safe kill in order to avoid suspicion? __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

04-29-2006, 04:50 AM	#5
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Kath bear in mind, if you work on the hypothesis that I am telling the truth, that the Duck knows I am innocent and a likely candidate to be lynched today. HHe also knows about Glirdan - either he is Glirdan, he thinks Glirdan is the protected owl, he thinks glirdan is a protective hawk. Either way no point in killing either of us last night. Best option to kill someone who is universally regarded as innocent. NB He doesn't mean I definitely think the duck is male __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace Last edited by Mithalwen; 04-29-2006 at 04:52 AM. Reason: include "either of us" obviously there was a kill...

04-29-2006, 05:02 AM	#6
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Forgive me one more statistic but without yet revealing last nights innocent, I will say that I don't "KNOW" about any of the remaining female villagers other than myself. However I think Lote is the least probable followed by, Kath, Cailin, Valier and JennyHallu in order though JH is a long way ahead of Valier in my suspicions. Three males are unaccounted for (in my book) but one of those is Glirdan. If Glirdan is the Duck it is the most astounding piece of werebeast play ever surely -but that doesn't make it impossible. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

04-29-2006, 08:12 AM	#9
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	Ang, I'm going to say this now and for everyone to hear and not care about the consequences: I have absolutely no patience to deal with you or this right now. I had a very bad week all week and now you come and say that I don't know how the game works! This is insulting!! Very insulting! So, if you want to lynch me, be my guest!! I really couldn't care less now that I've seen what you all think. Now, I'm going to go off and cool down because if I stay any longer, I will go balistic. I'll come back later. Good day!! __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf