Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXI: Dueling Wizards Werewolf

[Gurthang]

All in time. Right now I am trying to think of what to say, reading what you're saying, (and I keep getting phone calls! )

I'll tell you all that I can without telling too much. And soon.

[Gurthang]

First, I have to get this out of the way before everything turns completely serious.


When talking about who might be the Wizards, this occured:

Originally Posted by Cailín, #57

Gurthang. Does he ever sleep at all?

This made me laugh, first because I really was a wizard, and second because I had just gotten up from a night of only 3.5 hours of sleep.

I surely shall miss Cailín.

[Gurthang]

I want to point out a place where the phantom was wrong. *Gasp* He said the Good Wizard has nothing to fear. I definitely feared a great many things. Most of them along the lines of trying as hard as I could to protect the village, and then, in the very end, failing to do my job. I feared failure.

Okay, now to the important stuff. First, Loki was telling the truth. He was my scry the first night as well as one of the Evil Wizard's scries.

Second, the reason I picked a Hunter before a Ranger was because the Ranger is almost useless right now. I can't tell him who the Seer is without it being potentially deadly to the Seer later on. And a Hunter, if they die and kill, will help narrow down the Evil Wizard possibilities.

The one the Seer dreamed of two Nights ago was Cailín.

The Seer has the choice about revealing themself or not. However, I would caution against it, as it will likely result in their death, and I want them back.

As of now, I know only four innocents. And that's including myself. However, I am not going to name any of them, because one is my Hunter, one was and will be my Seer, and the other would most likely die toNight if I told of them.

[Gurthang]

Okay, so where does this leave us?

The Evil Wizard has scried 8 times. I know four of those. The rest of you know three.

Evil Wizard did scry:

Loki
Naria
Nogrod

Evil Wizard did not scry:

The Saucepan Man
the phantom
Celuien
Lhunardawen
Cailín

Now, many of you are better at knowing who would pick who for wolves. Let's hear some ideas.



Most likely what will happen toDay, is that I will choose four candidates for lynching. You should only vote for one of those four. This will ensure that none of the known innocents are lynched.

Sadly, I do not think I can take nominees, or else the EW might be able to determine the innocents by who I do not pick.

Now, is everyone alright with this plan? If not, go ahead and speak your mind. I will not post the list until later.

Firefoot, you said you may have to vote early. When will that be?

[Gurthang]

I just realized that the ex-Seer really has no reason not to come out. The Evildoers already know who s/he is, so s/he's got no one worth hiding from. But I'll let him/her do it anyway.

[Valier]

Originally Posted by Gurthang

I just realized that the ex-Seer really has no reason not to come out. The Evildoers already know who s/he is, so s/he's got no one worth hiding from. But I'll let him/her do it anyway.

Ummm would it even matter if they did come out? Because chances are that whoever they dreamt of may now be bad, so I think if they want to they can come out,but not unless most of the people they dreamt of are still alive, they we may have a chance to cross off some Ordo's at least for today

[Gurthang]

First off, Diamond, you're overreacting. I apologize for insulting you, I did not mean to. No, I would not be happy if we lynched you and you were an innocent. I would be quite angry at myself. And if it makes any difference, I was not planning on putting you on the list; well, if I even end up making a list. I've only heard negative reactions to the idea so far, so I'd like to hear more.

And Valier, the only dream of the Seer that is still alive was the one last Night. And, according to the Nightly order, the Seer dreams after the Evil Wizard makes new wolves. So there have been no new wolves made since that Seer dream. Ironically, since the Nightly order is such, I wonder how the Seer even got to dream...

[Roa_Aoife]

Ummm would it even matter if they did come out? Because chances are that whoever they dreamt of may now be bad, so I think if they want to they can come out,but not unless most of the people they dreamt of are still alive, they we may have a chance to cross off some Ordo's at least for today

The person they dreamt of last night would not have changed, as the cursing/scrying happens before the dream. So, the ex-seer knows one innocent, and the ex-seer themself is a known innocent. Then Gurthang is also a known innocent, so that would give us three people to cross of our list today. That would narrow our possible lynchees down to 19 from 22. I believe Gurthang mentioned that one of the seer's dreams was Cailin, who is died last night. So, there really is no possiblity that the ex-seer's dream is now wrong.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Valier

Ummm would it even matter if they did come out? Because chances are that whoever they dreamt of may now be bad, so I think if they want to they can come out,but not unless most of the people they dreamt of are still alive, they we may have a chance to cross off some Ordo's at least for today

I'm only caught up to this post but this again reinforces my feeling that Valier is guilty. She is extremely careless in her reading, as a wolf would be because they are overly confident and sometimes feel they don't need to read all. It has been given that the seer dreamt of Cailin and Cailin is dead. This coupled with yesterday's attitude convinces me that she is the wolf converted from two nights ago.