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This discovery might shed more light on the disappearance of the hobbits by the Seventh Age. In their form as Hobrogs, or, as Mark 12_30 clearly argues, hobbrim, they could have been more suspectible to the degrations of the environment wrought by man in that terrible age and thus fell victim first to genetic mutation and thence likely to extinction had it not been for one fortunate event in the Third Age when two hobbits imbibed ent draught.
Through the ages, this growth hormone was said to produce a branch of hobbit which became known to themselves as the Hobentrog, otherwise called by men in the vernacular the common tree frog, arising from the failure of men to correctly identify the plural as Hobentrim.
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Now that I think of it, even the colors in which the frog, or as I should more properly say now, Hobentrog, appeared are evidence of its identity, since it is known that green and brown were the preferred colors for the original Hobrrim.
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And exactly what is the relationship of
burrahobbits to the hobrog (hobbrim)? ![]()
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It is also said that Frodo's parents were Hobrogs, and that they did not die in a boating accident as generally believed by less informed Hobbits, but instead quietly slipped away to join their connections in the Brandywine Hobrog settlement. As for this burrahobbit, I would not presume to speak for him. ![]()
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People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff. Last edited by Celuien; 05-24-2006 at 03:48 PM. |
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The question of wings or not is certainly related to their possible necessity, due to the nature of the Hobrog's foes. In the tale of the Entish Bow (sorry, I haven't had time to find the exact location of that portion of lore) we read of Balfrogs, almost certainly enemies of the Hobrogs, and since they have wings, the Hobrogs would hardly be able to survive without them as well. Obviously, the changes in their nature throughout the many long years since then have lessened their flight capability, but there are still frogs that can jump great heights and distances. I'm sure those were once Balfrogs...
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Fascinating investigative research by Celuien ,
and one hinting at a vast hobrog conspiracy involving Meriadoc B., Ted Sandyman- obviously a hobrog covert agent involved in the Drogo/Primula coverup-, and a secret hobrog base along the Withywindle directed by Drogo and Primula.Who was MB signalling when he induced his agent PT to drop a message wrapped around a stone down a shaft in Moria to the water far below? What was the ultimate agenda of hobrog MB when they seized power in the Shire behind their dupe front man mayor SG? Was Tom Bombadil, as rumor has it, a collaborator waiting to seize power with the hobrogs when (as they hoped) the Sauron/Western forces exhausted each other?
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