dwarven lifespan ? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

gayare'dion · 08-10-2002, 04:21 PM

i know dwarves live pretty long, but are they immortal like elves ? and could they become ringwraiths ?

Legolas · 08-10-2002, 04:50 PM

Dwarves (on average) lived longer than men. Dwarves did not become wraiths because of the rings' effects on them. Their wills weren't as bent to Sauron's will as much as the wills of men. They already had a great deal of greed in their nature and had already learned to focus it on mining. The rings just enhanced this greed.

[ August 10, 2002: Message edited by: Legalos ]

Durialion · 08-10-2002, 04:52 PM

Ok Dwarves live pretty long maybe from 100-200 years, but they don't live as long as elves. They live longer than men, but not elves so thats you answer. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Telchar · 08-10-2002, 04:52 PM

Actually most of the ringwraiths were dwarves - people just ASSUMEthat they were men crouching down towards the ground. But actually the were just dwarves standing tall. Dwarves are of course immortal as the are wood figures cut from magical oak trees by little elf children.

Dont mind me, Im just tired - so we can speculate or even assume that I possibly might be wrong.

Cheers T

Morgoth Bauglir · 08-10-2002, 05:15 PM

lol telchar.....dwarves live about 200-250 years

Telchar · 08-10-2002, 05:25 PM

NO WAY!!!???!?!!!!

Ravenna · 08-10-2002, 05:39 PM

Yes way!
Gloin tells Frodo in the chaptr'many meetings' that Dain has passed his 250th year, and then he only died in battle during the assault on the Lonely Mountain. So I'm not sure how much longer he could have gone on.

08-10-2002, 11:25 PM

The Tolkien Bestiary has it at 250 years

Telchar · 08-11-2002, 02:26 AM

The Tolkien Bestiary is written by David Day - and should therefor be taken lightly.

On this point it is of course fairly correct.

Durialion · 08-11-2002, 10:00 AM

Ok aparently i was wrong. I tried. I don't know much about Lord of the Rings, but a know more than some. I have read the three books about the war of the ring. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

05-04-2006, 01:23 PM

well there has been much arguing about it but it is written in some places that fundin (balins father) lived 340 years

Thinlómien · 05-25-2006, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenna

Yes way!
Gloin tells Frodo in the chaptr'many meetings' that Dain has passed his 250th year, and then he only died in battle during the assault on the Lonely Mountain. So I'm not sure how much longer he could have gone on.

But he also says that being 250 years old he's an old dwarf. Maybe the dwarf lifespan was 200-300 years?

ninja91 · 05-25-2006, 05:25 AM

legolas has it right. dwarves are NOT immortal, and they, as far as i know, cannot become ringwraiths, for they are not as easily corrupted. men.... well, they are. but they do live long, that is for sure.

Tuor of Gondolin · 05-25-2006, 05:48 AM

Of course, Durin was believed to be reincarnated
five times.
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/enc3/durin

goldfinger · 05-25-2006, 10:39 AM

The simple fact about their life span is that they live about 250 years.

Maerbenn · 06-01-2006, 04:13 AM

I posted a good quote on this here.

Elmo · 03-19-2007, 09:06 AM

I feel sorry for Durin I. How many generations of his family did he watch grow and die before he himself eventually died. It must have been tough to be an almost immortal living with mortals. Unless he waited till just before he died to have children or dwarven lifespans were longer in the elder days I would not have chosen to be Durin the Deathless.

Kuruharan · 04-09-2009, 10:59 PM

Durin does appear to have married late, even for a dwarf since the only available candidates for him to marry would have been the daughter of one of the other six fathers.

Still, its quite likely he did outlive several generations of his descendants.

08-10-2002, 04:21 PM	#1
gayare'dion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: pennsylvania Posts: 75	dwarven lifespan ? i know dwarves live pretty long, but are they immortal like elves ? and could they become ringwraiths ? __________________ i like pants!

08-10-2002, 04:50 PM	#2
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	Dwarves (on average) lived longer than men. Dwarves did not become wraiths because of the rings' effects on them. Their wills weren't as bent to Sauron's will as much as the wills of men. They already had a great deal of greed in their nature and had already learned to focus it on mining. The rings just enhanced this greed. [ August 10, 2002: Message edited by: Legalos ] __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

08-10-2002, 04:52 PM	#3
Durialion Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 42	Ok Dwarves live pretty long maybe from 100-200 years, but they don't live as long as elves. They live longer than men, but not elves so thats you answer. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Durialion the High Elf "I wish the ring had never come to me and this adventure had never happened." Frodo "So do all who live to see these times, but you have to decide what to do when the time comes." Gandalf

08-10-2002, 04:52 PM	#4
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Actually most of the ringwraiths were dwarves - people just ASSUMEthat they were men crouching down towards the ground. But actually the were just dwarves standing tall. Dwarves are of course immortal as the are wood figures cut from magical oak trees by little elf children. Dont mind me, Im just tired - so we can speculate or even assume that I possibly might be wrong. Cheers T __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

08-10-2002, 05:25 PM	#6
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	NO WAY!!!???!?!!!! __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

08-10-2002, 05:15 PM	#5
Morgoth Bauglir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 252	lol telchar.....dwarves live about 200-250 years

08-10-2002, 05:39 PM	#7
Ravenna Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: witney, oxfordshire Posts: 70	Yes way! Gloin tells Frodo in the chaptr'many meetings' that Dain has passed his 250th year, and then he only died in battle during the assault on the Lonely Mountain. So I'm not sure how much longer he could have gone on.

08-10-2002, 11:25 PM	#8
Adutalathion Guest Posts: n/a	The Tolkien Bestiary has it at 250 years

08-11-2002, 02:26 AM	#9
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	The Tolkien Bestiary is written by David Day - and should therefor be taken lightly. On this point it is of course fairly correct. __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

08-11-2002, 10:00 AM	#10
Durialion Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 42	Ok aparently i was wrong. I tried. I don't know much about Lord of the Rings, but a know more than some. I have read the three books about the war of the ring. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ Durialion the High Elf "I wish the ring had never come to me and this adventure had never happened." Frodo "So do all who live to see these times, but you have to decide what to do when the time comes." Gandalf

05-04-2006, 01:23 PM	#11
Mahedros the tall Guest Posts: n/a	well there has been much arguing about it but it is written in some places that fundin (balins father) lived 340 years

05-25-2006, 05:48 AM	#14
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Of course, Durin was believed to be reincarnated five times. http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/enc3/durin __________________ Aure Entuluva!

05-25-2006, 10:39 AM	#15
goldfinger Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KC, Missouri Posts: 60	The simple fact about their life span is that they live about 250 years.

06-01-2006, 04:13 AM	#16
Maerbenn Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 59	I posted a good quote on this here.

03-19-2007, 09:06 AM	#17
Elmo Pittodrie Poltergeist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trying to find that warm and winding lane again Posts: 633	I feel sorry for Durin I. How many generations of his family did he watch grow and die before he himself eventually died. It must have been tough to be an almost immortal living with mortals. Unless he waited till just before he died to have children or dwarven lifespans were longer in the elder days I would not have chosen to be Durin the Deathless. __________________ As Beren looked into her eyes within the shadows of her hair, The trembling starlight of the skies he saw there mirrored shimmering.

04-09-2009, 10:59 PM	#18
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	Durin does appear to have married late, even for a dwarf since the only available candidates for him to marry would have been the daughter of one of the other six fathers. Still, its quite likely he did outlive several generations of his descendants. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...