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Tuor of Gondolin · 05-31-2006, 10:29 AM

Cheap question...
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Is it in the Sil?

Actually a rather good question. But I don't have The
Silmarillion with me so I'll have to check later to see
whether I located the topic there or in another work,
and if I didn't find it in The Silmarillion, is a mention also in
The Silmarillion.

Tuor of Gondolin · 06-01-2006, 05:30 AM

Okay. I've checked Firefoot 's question and,
as far as I can see it's not in The Silmarillion. I
found the reference in another work.

Btw, as a general rule I think it would be too easy
and mechanical to allow questions as to what book
something is in, since it could progress to "Is it in a
given chapter?", "Between pages so-and-so?", etc. But
in this case I'd say it's a valid line of question, especially
since the group/incident I'm thinking of is only mentioned,
as far as I can determine, in one not overly obvious place,
although it is a valid bit.

Third Age? Yes. Highly probable.
First Age? No.
Second Age? Yes.
Man (as in race)? No.
Living? Yes.
Elf? No.
Dwarf? No.
Auinu? No.
Olvar? No.
Ent? Nope.
Snow-men of Forochel No.
Evil? Not so.
Plant? No.
Thorondir??? No.
Does it have a gender (not is it known; does it have one)?
Yes. It/they do.
Is it a single living thing rather than a group? No. It's a group.
Was any part of it ever in Numenor?
Yes. At least some of the group was definitely in Numenor.
Are the members of the group able to talk? Yes.
In The Silmarillion? No.

Firefoot · 06-01-2006, 05:37 AM

I don't think it's ever gotten quite that specific. Asking about the book is usually about as specific as I've seen it go.

Not in the Sil, then... UT?

I hope so...

Tuor of Gondolin · 06-01-2006, 05:41 AM

Not in the Sil, then... UT?
YES!

But it's still tricksy. If you're trawling for it be warned, it took
me almost half an hour yesterday to "refind" it.

Firefoot · 06-01-2006, 10:20 AM

Peachy... (strange word, that.)

Did any of the group ever have contact with Aldarion?

Tuor of Gondolin · 06-01-2006, 10:33 AM

Did any of the group ever have contact with Aldarion?

As the elves might say, both yes and no.
Let's say a subset of the group did, but I'm
thinking of another event involving a subset of the group,
and not including all of the former group that had contact
with Aldarion. (wish I knew what I just said)

Look. It happened later!

ENORMOUS HINT (well, sort of)
What was the nature of this group? Who were they?

Firefoot · 06-01-2006, 11:25 AM

Hm...

Are they a group because of what sort of thing (creature? race?) they are?

05-31-2006, 10:29 AM	#1
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Cheap question... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is it in the Sil? Actually a rather good question. But I don't have The Silmarillion with me so I'll have to check later to see whether I located the topic there or in another work, and if I didn't find it in The Silmarillion, is a mention also in The Silmarillion. __________________ Aure Entuluva!

06-01-2006, 05:30 AM	#2
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Okay. I've checked Firefoot 's question and, as far as I can see it's not in The Silmarillion. I found the reference in another work. Btw, as a general rule I think it would be too easy and mechanical to allow questions as to what book something is in, since it could progress to "Is it in a given chapter?", "Between pages so-and-so?", etc. But in this case I'd say it's a valid line of question, especially since the group/incident I'm thinking of is only mentioned, as far as I can determine, in one not overly obvious place, although it is a valid bit. Third Age? Yes. Highly probable. First Age? No. Second Age? Yes. Man (as in race)? No. Living? Yes. Elf? No. Dwarf? No. Auinu? No. Olvar? No. Ent? Nope. Snow-men of Forochel No. Evil? Not so. Plant? No. Thorondir??? No. Does it have a gender (not is it known; does it have one)? Yes. It/they do. Is it a single living thing rather than a group? No. It's a group. Was any part of it ever in Numenor? Yes. At least some of the group was definitely in Numenor. Are the members of the group able to talk? Yes. In The Silmarillion? No. __________________ Aure Entuluva! Last edited by Tuor of Gondolin; 06-01-2006 at 05:44 AM.

06-01-2006, 05:41 AM	#4
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Not in the Sil, then... UT? YES! But it's still tricksy. If you're trawling for it be warned, it took me almost half an hour yesterday to "refind" it. __________________ Aure Entuluva!

06-01-2006, 10:33 AM	#6
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Did any of the group ever have contact with Aldarion? As the elves might say, both yes and no. Let's say a subset of the group did, but I'm thinking of another event involving a subset of the group, and not including all of the former group that had contact with Aldarion. (wish I knew what I just said) Look. It happened later! ENORMOUS HINT (well, sort of) What was the nature of this group? Who were they? __________________ Aure Entuluva!

06-01-2006, 05:37 AM	#3
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	I don't think it's ever gotten quite that specific. Asking about the book is usually about as specific as I've seen it go. Not in the Sil, then... UT? I hope so...

06-01-2006, 10:20 AM	#5
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Peachy... (strange word, that.) Did any of the group ever have contact with Aldarion?

06-01-2006, 11:25 AM	#7
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Hm... Are they a group because of what sort of thing (creature? race?) they are?