WWJ IX: Psychotic Penguins: The Crossing of Helcaraxë - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Roa_Aoife · 06-11-2006, 08:24 PM

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Valier was the one I started suspecting first, and I used that in looking for other wolves. You can do that when there are more than one.

Why?

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My comments in 258 were meant to be read in conjunction with Diamond's post immediately preceding, although you all seem intent on reading it as stand alone, which does rather change the reading of it.

Is there a reason I should automatically assume that you weren't speaking for yourself? You stated your opinion as your own, and trying to bunny off of what Diamond was saying, or link yourself to her for the sake of looking less suspicious doesn't make you look better.

Edit: Cross posted- I'm not going to make your case for you.

Firefoot · 06-11-2006, 08:27 PM

How about the title "What Diamond said"?

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Why?

I've already explained this, and I even quoted myself.

Roa_Aoife · 06-11-2006, 08:30 PM

Just because you agreed with her doesn't mean I shouldn't take your comment for it's own value. It's too easy to hide by just agreeing with other people. I looked at your comment for what it was. And it's not 258- that's Valier again.

Firefoot · 06-11-2006, 08:31 PM

Sorry, 248.

And, yes, take it for it's own value, but look at the meaning behind it as well, please.

Roa_Aoife · 06-11-2006, 08:31 PM

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I've already explained this, and I even quoted myself.

No, you gave some loose reasons with out any actual evidence to back them.

Roa_Aoife · 06-11-2006, 08:33 PM

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And, yes, take it for it's own value, but look at the meaning behind it as well, please.

Enlighten me. What was that?

Firefoot · 06-11-2006, 08:35 PM

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Enlighten me. What was that?

I already said this too! That it was meant to be read in conjunction with Diamond's post.

I'm not even going to respond to you anymore, because you're not listening to me anyways. If you want to see me as a penguin, there's nothing I can do to stop that.

Diamond18 · 06-11-2006, 08:40 PM

This spat between you two is making my head spin. I'm really not sure what to make of it.

Firefoot · 06-11-2006, 09:05 PM

I know I said I wasn't going to respond anymore, but...

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That's not a meaning. That's an attempt to dodge the issue.

That's why I said "meaning behind the post" and not "meaning of the post". Maybe meaning was a bad word.

The amazing thing is that I still think Roa is probably innocent. In fact, I am becoming increasingly convinced of this. I've seen too many spats like this one between innocents to think otherwise.

I need to sit back and look at the wider picture again.

I've gone back and looked at Boromir's innocent list (on which I still think there is probably a penguin), and of Macalaure Eonwe, Spawn, and Valier, I think that Macalaure is the most likely to be innocent, for reasons others and I have already stated. Next is Spawn. What few posts she has made have felt extremely innocent to me, and she made some good points in her posts. Although, her suspicions of Ang really catch my eye, probably because both the people I have really suspected so far (Encai and Valier) and Boromir have all suspected Ang (or in Encai's case, more tried to bring attention to him). I'd like to hear more from her. Eonwe puzzles me. I couldn't get anything clear from his very few posts. I think it's safe to say that both he and Valier are not wolves. Valier, I still think is suspicious. Right now, she is definitely one of my prospects for voting.

In his second list, Diamond still feels innocent to me, leaving Encai and Naria. I went back and looked at Naria again, and she really hasn't said much at all. I have no idea about her - I find it odd that Valier keeps coming back and mentioning her. Gut feeling is one thing, but Naria has posted all of five times, and said not much at all. I really would like to know where this comes from. It makes me wonder if maybe it's a Valier-Naria alliance rather than Valier-Encai as I was thinking before.

I see my vote going to Valier, Encai, Naria, or Eonwe. Maybe Spawn if something comes up. I think that there is definitely at least one wolf in this bunch; maybe even two.

Roa_Aoife · 06-11-2006, 08:40 PM

That's not a meaning. That's an attempt to dodge the issue. The only meaning in that post was to say that Valier changed her mind on a bunch of people. No posts, or quotes, or actual evidences were given, and you didn't even know where they were anyways! You had to go look it up! And you want me to believe that real point of that was to add to what Diamond was saying? Fine, then that's the real point, you wanted to add feul to Diamond's fire. But that doesn't change the fact the what you said doesn't hold water.

Edit: signing off for the night back... I don't know when, but hopefully pre-deadline

06-11-2006, 08:30 PM	#3
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Just because you agreed with her doesn't mean I shouldn't take your comment for it's own value. It's too easy to hide by just agreeing with other people. I looked at your comment for what it was. And it's not 258- that's Valier again. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

06-11-2006, 08:40 PM	#8
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	This spat between you two is making my head spin. I'm really not sure what to make of it. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

06-11-2006, 08:40 PM	#10
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	That's not a meaning. That's an attempt to dodge the issue. The only meaning in that post was to say that Valier changed her mind on a bunch of people. No posts, or quotes, or actual evidences were given, and you didn't even know where they were anyways! You had to go look it up! And you want me to believe that real point of that was to add to what Diamond was saying? Fine, then that's the real point, you wanted to add feul to Diamond's fire. But that doesn't change the fact the what you said doesn't hold water. Edit: signing off for the night back... I don't know when, but hopefully pre-deadline __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen Last edited by Roa_Aoife; 06-11-2006 at 08:44 PM.

06-11-2006, 08:31 PM	#4
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Sorry, 248. And, yes, take it for it's own value, but look at the meaning behind it as well, please.