Gandalf Vs. The Witch King - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Trotter · 08-11-2006, 12:51 PM

Hey,

This particular scene had me yelling at the TV in unspeakable rage when I first saw it! I cannot fathom why this scene was portrayed as it was. PJ's excuses don't do it for me. Fact is, (all arguements about Gandalf's and WK's power aside) it was a weak scene that served no purpose when it could have been a strong scene that was full of it! It is a sad thing indeed, for had this scene been filmed the way that Tolkien wrote it, it could have been one of the most dramatic scenes in the film.

narfforc · 08-12-2006, 12:48 PM

I am saddened for I thought on this website someones likes or ways would not be disparaged. It seems that after reading Tolkien for 35yrs and having a library of over 300 books on the subject, if I play the odd game then I am irrelevent, Alatar and I have been linked with 'all those idiots, then I obviously cannot have any say. The fact that our light-hearted comments have been taken out of context this way saddens me, this thread has gone round and round, duplicating the same arguments over and over, for what harm our comments made to it, I am sorry, however as there is no forum for these games on this website, and maybe, just maybe others (that is people who are not you), could have wanted to know of these video games, and as they are linked to the movies visually, well that is why the subject arose.

All that is written is not clever
All who play games are not daft
If you think your way for ever
Maybe it's at you next could be laughed.

P.S Thank you Mansun for your humane understanding of other peoples pass-times, whatever you do don't let on that you train spot, do flower arranging or read silly fairy stories, you know how the morons will class you an idiot for having a hobby other than theirs.

08-12-2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by narfforc

P.S Thank you Mansun for your humane understanding of other peoples pass-times, whatever you do don't let on that you train spot, do flower arranging or read silly fairy stories, you know how the morons will class you an idiot for having a hobby other than theirs.

It is no coincidence then that I share the same hobby as you, as I own BFME I & II, as well as the Fellowship of the Ring, Return of the King, & the War of the Ring. However, these games should not be discussed here - there are PLENTY of games forums & online chat rooms available (including on the games themselves). And I said idiots as a slang term, not an insult - something that probably better refers to the younger generation of gamers like me & many others.

The reason why this thread does get more than its fair share of comments (sometimes repeated albeit) is because it is a highly contraversial scene in the movie, & EVERYONE is entitled to discuss this scene regardless of how exhausted the topic may seem to get to you, particularly those who are new to the Barrow Downs, or those who may want to find answers to different angles of the topic.

Essex · 08-12-2006, 05:27 PM

Mansun,

read the line "The fact that our light-hearted comments have been taken out of context "

they were having a laugh.

Luckily, we can have a laugh on this forum - a well as having serious inepth discussions (as we have done esp on this thread) - so they were not irrelevant.

To me if someone comes up with a reason why gandalf is stronger than the WK from the game of the movie, it's JUST as relevant as someone else saying 'but Gandalf was stronger than the Witch King' from reading the books as we have no proof of this in this matter, as everything on this matter is CIRCUMSTANTIAL at best.

I though it was funny anyway guys!!!!

08-12-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Essex

Mansun,

read the line "The fact that our light-hearted comments have been taken out of context "

they were having a laugh.

Luckily, we can have a laugh on this forum - a well as having serious inepth discussions (as we have done esp on this thread) - so they were not irrelevant.

To me if someone comes up with a reason why gandalf is stronger than the WK from the game of the movie, it's JUST as relevant as someone else saying 'but Gandalf was stronger than the Witch King' from reading the books as we have no proof of this in this matter, as everything on this matter is CIRCUMSTANTIAL at best.

I though it was funny anyway guys!!!!

They were not taken out of context - they were in the wrong context from the start. As I said before, there are other places to have a laugh about the games. This thread is about the movies - WK laughs . . . .

08-11-2006, 12:51 PM	#1
Trotter Pile O'Bones Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The South Downs Posts: 24	Hey, This particular scene had me yelling at the TV in unspeakable rage when I first saw it! I cannot fathom why this scene was portrayed as it was. PJ's excuses don't do it for me. Fact is, (all arguements about Gandalf's and WK's power aside) it was a weak scene that served no purpose when it could have been a strong scene that was full of it! It is a sad thing indeed, for had this scene been filmed the way that Tolkien wrote it, it could have been one of the most dramatic scenes in the film. __________________ Trotter... the Hobbit ranger with the wooden shoes.

08-12-2006, 12:48 PM	#2
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	I am saddened I am saddened for I thought on this website someones likes or ways would not be disparaged. It seems that after reading Tolkien for 35yrs and having a library of over 300 books on the subject, if I play the odd game then I am irrelevent, Alatar and I have been linked with 'all those idiots, then I obviously cannot have any say. The fact that our light-hearted comments have been taken out of context this way saddens me, this thread has gone round and round, duplicating the same arguments over and over, for what harm our comments made to it, I am sorry, however as there is no forum for these games on this website, and maybe, just maybe others (that is people who are not you), could have wanted to know of these video games, and as they are linked to the movies visually, well that is why the subject arose. All that is written is not clever All who play games are not daft If you think your way for ever Maybe it's at you next could be laughed. P.S Thank you Mansun for your humane understanding of other peoples pass-times, whatever you do don't let on that you train spot, do flower arranging or read silly fairy stories, you know how the morons will class you an idiot for having a hobby other than theirs. __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.

08-12-2006, 05:27 PM	#4
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	Mansun, read the line "The fact that our light-hearted comments have been taken out of context " they were having a laugh. Luckily, we can have a laugh on this forum - a well as having serious inepth discussions (as we have done esp on this thread) - so they were not irrelevant. To me if someone comes up with a reason why gandalf is stronger than the WK from the game of the movie, it's JUST as relevant as someone else saying 'but Gandalf was stronger than the Witch King' from reading the books as we have no proof of this in this matter, as everything on this matter is CIRCUMSTANTIAL at best. I though it was funny anyway guys!!!!