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Old 08-11-2006, 03:34 PM   #8
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And being the dead, spirits, shadows, shades, whatever you want to call them, they have no physical body. And having no physical body, means you can't physically effect or harm anyone, because this means they are intangible.

The whole point that I'm trying to make is being dead, a spirit, a shadow...whatever, means that you have no physical body, because in Tolkien death is the seperation of the spirit from the body. And having no physical body means you can't harm anything, or anyone physically.

So, again in conclusion. The King of the Dead you could barely see his spirit, but he had no body, so he couldn't harm you physically and he himself couldn't be harmed physically.
Boromir88, I understand your assertion that a spirit cannot physically harm another, due to the fact that they have no fleshly body with which to inflict harm; however they did cause physical harm to occur as a result of their ability to produce fear and dread.

During the battle at Pelargir, the Shadow Host caused such a "madness of terror" that the enemy leaped overboard, many drowned. The physical harm that came to them was a direct result from the fear that the Shadow Host induced.

I agree that a battle between the King of the Dead and the Witch King would end in a draw, since the King of the Dead could not be killed, since he was already dead, and the Witch King would hardly be frightened by any of the Shadow Host.
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