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			Wilwa has asked me to do it for the last time today and I think I can end it within the next 30 minutes.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I'll try to be consistent (and don't like the big guns being easy targets...   
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Day 15 has now ended and the race was close but in the end it would be Bofur who would be leaving the island. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I was going to vote him first!! Oh well.  He does need to go.  His uncloaking is starting to rub off on the other contestants.   
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Let's cut him off before his senility takes over even more than it has. His mutterings and forgetfulness are getting tiresome. 
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			I've been wondering... we all know that Celebrían received a poisoned wound by the orcs which made her leave for Valinor. But what poisons are orcs able to brew that exceed Elrond's skills in healing? I don't think this is very believable. Celebrían was a Xanthippe and a domestic tyrant and at last Elrond was happy to have found a pretence to be delivered from her. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			1) As stated in Valaquenta: "He does not go in the deeps" - so he's superficial? 2) He may be loved by the mariners or those at the mercy of the sea eg. the Numenorians (forcefully, by one's own interests to mainly save oneself from his unpredictability?), but is not trusted because of his random rage. 3) He was lured by Melkor and caused much harm but then became soothed by his wife's bidding. So Ossë is someone with nasty or selfish predilections but no strength to hold a mind of his own, an opportunistic Maia just trying to please others around him and maximise his comfort and the lack of risks while striving to personal power and worship. A more powerful Wormtongue, I say! And anyhow, a weak personality not worthy of winning this competition... ++ Ossë 
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			There is another dangerous voting block forming, what is wrong with Osse?  He's unpredictable?  Great!  Better to entertain.  What does Gandalf do?  He's drab, and mutters to himself idly all day long, his beard is overly long, and absolutely no sex appeal.  However Osse is perfect because all the guys want to be him and the girls think that they can change him.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 Best do everything I can to stoke it and make it last longer... ++ Gandalf 
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	Again? Well, alright, let her win if you like... -- Celebrian Once again the day seems to go the route of a head-to-head bandwaggon race. So be it, Gandalf or Osse then. I share the opinion of morm, which scares me a little. What entertainmental value (uncloaking jokes don't count in this department) does Gandalf have? An occasional fool-of-a-took just isn't enough. ++Gandalf (Psst: Don't forget, in a bad mood, Osse might sink the whole island if he can't have it!)  | 
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			Is he the Squiggy of Middle-earth? Are our rating that low to bring a new person on to spice things up? I vote to bring on the Chief Warg. 
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			How could anyone wan't to get rid of Gandalf? He's one of the greatest characters in Tolkien's works. Just the whole idea of a wizard is so magnificent... It's not his fault that somebody made a bad joke about him anyway... (...I'm again siding with other people, not like me...) So, to protect Gandalf for atleast this one day. I wote Osse down! 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			Gandalf was a bigger failure than Frodo!  What did he do that actually worked that he can claim was his work?  He didn't defeat a balrog...the balrog defeated himself.  He really didn't do much at Helm's Deep except to come and get the stragglers.  The Hurons really did the work their.  He failed with Boromir and let him loose himself.  He, instead of lending his aid, let four unaware hobbits take on ruffians and an ex-wizard who still had some power, why risk it?  Just be done with it.  He failed Frodo in that he wasn't there to aid him and were it not for Samwise, who sadly isn't in the mix, the entire quest would have failed.  The only thing that Gandalf did that wasn't a failure was his fireworks.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 Ooohhh! Fireworks! Every bored survivor on a mundane island needs fireworks to keep up the spirits. Best reason for keeping the Grey One around.     
		
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			Maybe we could bring on the Chief Warg and Squiggy. That's, like, ratings bonanza!   
		
		
		
		
		
		
			  (Incidentally, Morm, hilarious episode that.) 
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			Not that important, since Ulmo can just have Uinen take over his tasks and send Osse to a nice long holiday on the strand past the Houses of Waiting (although the water said to be about as chilly as the Blackpool area). 
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			Day 16 has now ended, and the votes are very close: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Gandalf - 7 Osse - 8 Osse received the most votes. After a little arguing with those who voted him off he gave in and left the island himself before the Muddy Boot of Doom came and to boot him off in a more painful manner. The remaining contestants: From the Lord of the Rings Survivor Gimli Hama Gandalf From the Silmarillion Survivor Elbereth Ingwe From the Hobbit Survivor Smaug Gloin Durin From the Second Age Survivor Tar-Miriel Celebrian Thorondor From the Minor Works Survivor Chrysophylax Dives Goldberry *************************************** Contestants already voted off Ori Witch-king Tom Bombadil Maglor Celebrimbor Manwe Ar-Pharazon Princess Pam Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie Arwen Bullroarer Perry-the-Winkle Merry Tar-Aldarion Sauron Bofur Osse **************************************** You may now start voting. I am back from my trip, but I'm sick    so I just woke up from a nap, that's why this is late.
		
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	Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumičre qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit  Fenris Muffin 
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