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A Mere Boggart
Join Date: Mar 2004
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I'd like it to be true that they did have access to some lost form of knowledge that defied rational explanation, but stories like that are common in folklore around the world, and reason can be found behind them. Maybe ascribing the power of positive thinking to the events in this story is me applying too much modern knowledge to them. I'd go further to say that Aghan may have indeed killed the Orc but did not wish to make Barach feel 'obliged' in any way, and so may have said it was due to magical powers. In fact, Aghan may have truly believed it was due to magical powers whereas he may actually have been in a trance, such as Shamans go into in order to endure unbelievable pain.
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Now if I can accept that, why am I resisting accepting The Faithful Stone story? ![]()
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It's clear that Saruman did have a Ring, as Gandalf remarks in The Council of Elrond. Which means either: 1. Saruman had made actually made this ring, with the knowledge that he gained from studying them. 2. It was one he found, came across, and he wore it to boost his arrogance as being like Sauron. Personally I believe it's Number 2, as there is I think way too slight evidence to prove Saruman had made his own ring. In an early draft there is this quote: Quote:
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'Saruman Ring-maker' At first look, this may be solid proof that Saruman created his own ring, but let's look at it a bit further. Notice the capitilization, it is a title, it is a name. If we look at A Shadow of the Past, Ring-maker is actually a name given to Sauron: Quote:
Or, you can think that Saruman just wanted to appear like he was Sauron and he was boosting his pride in that he was emmulating Sauron. He found a Ring, and now he was Ring-maker, symbolizing that he was Sauron. And perhaps jealousy has a factor in this matter as well. We find out that Saruman knew Gandalf had been given one of the Elven-Rings and became jealous because of this: Quote:
I think it's just questionable, and we can't definitively say either. Personally, I think the text is way to slim and circumstantial to believe that Saruman created the Ring because of the reasons given above.
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