WWJ XI: When World's Collide

[Boromir88]

Boromir - I don't think I've ever seen a Seer get that lucky before. I was shocked and impressed when you naile the first two Wolves in three Days.

You must have missed the game I was the Seer and Mithalwen modded, when I got Fea and Kuru, both wolves, in two days.

Congradulations villagers, and a super congrats to you Volo, for having two successful protections...(I'm not sure if that Ranger has done that in any game before).

It was fun seering, after I was whacked I was begging everyone to listen to Naria and Kath as they were pretty much dead on my votes and my mind. And eventhough if Nogrod was twisting everything I still never suspected him as a wolf, you almost pulled it off.

Basically just my thoughts. I've played with Menel before and know he can be a valuabe guy so I wanted to make sure about him right from the start, turns out bad luck for him. Then I thought exactly what Gil thought and perhaps Menel voted for Valier to throw us off, so I dreamt of her. I followed up my growing suspicions of Valesse with a dream. Then I really had no clue who the third wolf was. I thought perhaps Mac was trying to slip through, and if not him then Sleepy...Nogrod never came across as being a wolf, extremely bold move (don't think I would even attempt that ) but it almost paid off.

Good job for figuring the little conniving lycan out.

And a special congrats to Glirdan and Wilwa (glad I could make you laugh, ). I thorougly enjoyed this game it's got me back and addicted after I really wasn't sure about participating again considering how some prior games had gone.

[The Saucepan Man]

I only really followed this towards the end, but it was fun to watch. Well done to all concerned.

You villagers really should have listened to Naria, you know, when she pointed out that Boro had left some doubt as to Noggie's innocence. It seemed to me to be a very insightful analysis so, after she turned out innocent, Nog was looking pretty suspicious to me for the remainder of the game. Luckily for you, Lommy finally picked up on the point again at the end - just in time.

But you did a great job too, Nogrod, as a lone Wolf throughout much of the game. I was half rooting for you and half screaming in frustration every time that you were once again assumed to be part of Boro's "innocent" list.

[Valesse]

I have to agree. As I was following the game (almost obsessively. Honestly I think I refreshed the page more often post mortum than while I had business in it.) I had to cheer on Noggie's choice kills.

As for that strategy of ours... heh... it was a big bungled, but in the end looked rather different than it actually was.

Menel's death was rather upsetting for me at least. I didn't join the bandwagon against him not because... well... I'd look innocent, but because Nogrod has voted for him already, and our mission was first and most importantly to separate.

I ought to thank Menel here. When I was appointed wolf I had NO idea what to do about it. Honestly, this is my first 'gifted' position, and without that first hint of direction would have freaked out so quickly it wouldn't have been much of a game.

Oh goodness, I could go on until my death tonight, but alas right now I have homework and an early meeting. I will be back in a matter of hours to babble mindlessly on what I was involved with.

However I must mention to Boromir that I did think that Menel was "just joking". He was suppose to suspect Nogord that day from what I understood from our discussion the Night before.

[Thinlómien]

I was wrong after all with the "I catch no evil intent" -thing.... Luckily the part I got right was the identity of the wolf. Cheers, Naria! We should have listened to you. Sorry for being a big factor in your lynch. (I can apologise after game, right? )

(By the way, Kath, what was so wrong with fellow victims? )

A great game everybody!

Especially Nogrod. Wonderful bluffing and back-stabbing. It wasn't that you were really suspicious on the last day but that Kath and Volo seemed just more innocent (partly by gut-feeling, I must admit).

Thanks for Boro too, for great seering.

And Volo, you were absolutely great for a ranger (and you were a newbie... I guess we tend to undervalue newbies.) Keep playing!

I must say, as a final note, that I was quite amused by the fact that the three people who were with me on the last day were my father, my RL friend and the first 'downer I ever really befriended with.

[Macalaure]

Nogrod, you are a very bad person...

...and you know it...

...and you're probably proud of it!


How cold-blooded does one have to be to write something like the end of this post knowing you're going to kill the addressee?

Originally Posted by Saucey

I was half rooting for you and half screaming in frustration every time that you were once again assumed to be part of Boro's "innocent" list.

*sigh*
Boro was so sure about Nogrod's innocence, they were either both wolves, or Boro seer and Nogrod dreamt-of innocent to me. I even was suspicious of the two, but then Valesse turned out a wolf and I took the innocence of the two for granted. And after I saw I was right about Boro, I stopped questioning Nogrod. And that was my fault...

Whatever,
great game by everybody, especially Lommy, Kath and the not listened to Naria, and especially especially by Volo - amazing performance for a new one.


PS: Some of you called me Maca in this game. Pleeease, don't. Not only does it sound a little too feminine to me, but there's also the word 'Macker' in german, which is a not-so-nice term for a male.
I'm very fine with Mac.

[Kath]

By the way, Kath, what was so wrong with fellow victims?

Lommy, I don't really know! I had quite convinced myself that you were wolvish that I picked up on anything. Basically, I've been an ordo and a wolf and I have only ever heard the wolves refer to the villagers as 'victims'. Any other time I've been an ordo I've heard the word 'innocents' used. That's why.

But hurrah! We won! And apparently we're off to help fight in more battles.

Volo - amazing job. You have taken the curse of the Ranger and thrown it right off. Living to the end and making some truly excellent choices.

Boro - fantastic, two wolves almost from the off. Well done for keeping under wraps for so long too.

Nogrod - you were so close! And you played it so well. You seemed so confident the whole time. I've been in your position and was constantly in fear, how were you not?

Everyone else, I'm so glad this was such a good game after the problems a few weeks back. Nice to have a fun one to start things up again. Great playing all round.

Thanks to Glirdan as well, I did like the roleplaying aspect and I just wish I'd had more time to give to it!

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

You must have missed the game I was the Seer and Mithalwen modded, when I got Fea and Kuru, both wolves, in two days.

Well it was a very short game, Borosir

[JennyHallu]

AGH!!!! I just knew Noggie was evil. Especially that last day when everything he said sounded so reasonable and made no sense.

So, wolvsies, why'd I get killed so early?

[Meneltarmacil]

Well, it was a good game, though I missed most of it. Nogrod almost made it there...

Anyhow, I was wondering why I was killed the first Day and thought it was due to my post about Lommy and Naria. It turns out now that I was actually the casualty of a Seer's dream, and a very wise choice of a Seer's dream as well. (I would have dreamed about you first as well, Boromir.)

I'd hoped that my comment about Gil-Galad's occupation and Glirdan's death would have been interpreted as the rather obvious joke it was, though...

Anyway, is it just me or have I always been suspicious of Boromir88 when we've played together?

[Valesse]

Originally Posted by JennyHallu

So, wolvsies, why'd I get killed so early?

Sounds like a good place to start today. After Menel was eliminated *sniffsniff* Nogrod and I... well... at least I was a bit frazzled. Basically instead of getting rid of Boromir (Which we should have!) we decided to pick a random person from the list (You, Jenny) in hopes that people would be thrown off by it. We also considered Lommy, which probably would have been much easier on Noggie IRL, but I completely forgot they knew one another.

During that second Day, Noggie tried to keep Mac and Boromir in close assosication with him, which most everyone picked up on nicely. Mwahahaha!

I had plans to frame Sleepy and Naria, but that didn't work out so well. Instead people were making a case against Diamond and Kath, and because I wanted it to look natural... I voted Kath. I must say that Nogrod's targets (Gil and Diamond) were much more effectively eliminated.

The third night Nogrod sounded like he was pretty sure he was going to die... Which I didn't understand at all.

As he had so gently stated the Day before, Boromir was going to be after me the next day, so naturally I'm panicing because all of my hope for a wolfish victory meant Nogrod staying alive... And keeping Nogrod alive meant we couldn't get rid of Boromir! Besides... now if we had gone and picked Boromir I would have looked twice as guilty as before.

Anyway, He was so stanchly protecting Noggie that it seemed foolish to remove him from our deceptive shield. You can't imagine how frustrating that was for me, so I gritted my teeth and suggested that we needed to get rid of Valier before she could put up anything incriminating against us. Hence her murder.

I knew the end was near for me because of you, Boromir *shakes fist*
Infact:

Originally Posted by Me, in 'secret' to Noggie

I feel as if there is a large chance that I will not survive tomorrow. I think it's important that we consider some post mortem plans if either one of us snuffs it during the Day.

Don't support me. I'd rather you vote for me than do what I did to Menel.

If we weren't suppose to be connected, what better way to remove a wolf from the 'pack' than to have it turn against it's own kind? I was sure it would promise us a victory and it worked until the very very end. Grr! So close, too!

I'd like to hear Nogrod's reasons for the other deaths, and why no one considered why the oh-so-innocent Nogrod lasted so long during the nights?

[Naria]

Wow! I think this would have to be one of the funnest games I have been in and one of the most frustrating games. I really enjoyed myself this time! A special thanks to Glirdy and his moddess. Wonderful job, both of you. I really liked the rp format...I was a little apprehensive about it at first, but it worked out beautifully.

I knew that I had to have been on the right track(or somewhat) with Boro's dreams. After I went back and took another look at what he said...the pieces just fit together a little too good for it not to be right. After I died you guys should have heard me...I wanted to reach through the screen, on several occasions, and strangle some of you. I am just glad that Lommy used her better judgement for her last vote...wah hooo!!

Nogrod, you slippery bugger! You did a really good job for being a lone wolf. I still can't believe that so many people believed your bunk.

Volo, only one word comes to mind...Superb!

Boro, awesome seering. The only nit-pick that I would have is your 'innocent' list. Everyone is going to believe the seer's list no matter what happens and therefore I had a really hard time convincing others to the contrary. You dreamt of Mac, but why did you have Volo and Nog on your list?

Everyone else...congrats!! I loved playing with all of you

Oh yeah

and why no one considered why the oh-so-innocent Nogrod lasted so long during the nights?

Why indeed! I mean come on...he's a really good player(therefore a threat to the wolves) and he lasts night after night and then it comes down to one wolf to find and Nog still stays alive night after night. I really did think that someone would have picked up on that.

[Volo]

Thanks Glirdan! You sure made me look heroic in the end-post :P Well, even if this did cost morning alertness, I enjoyed myself! This sure was a bunch of clever people!

Well, from my part this game was luck... Just protected the people in a succesful order and posted my own senseless opinions. I really feel that I haven't learned much and am still a total newbie... If not for Nogrod's teacher-role, I'd be dead and so would be Kath and Lommy. He sure left many clues now that I read some posts again, the reason I then desided to vote him (at midnight) was post #356 , maybe of fear or knowledge that this was the last chance to get rid of wolf-Nogrod...

Thanks to all of you! Especially to you, who really put your time in the game. I'll sure continue participating in WW!

But then this last question that I have wondered for some time! Did Nogrod ask Glirdan to make "the mistake"?
EDIT: it seems not...

[Nogrod]

Absolutely Fabulous People!

This was a great comeback for the WW-games! A thriller, I might say... at least for me.

Back-stabbing my mates in the beginning of the game surely wasn't anything like my plan.

Sadly Menel went on the first Day the way he did. If I hadn't attacked him, all those who have played with me before would have gotten really suspicious of me not jumping hard on things I always go after in-game. And not the least when he would have been lynched and recognised as a wolf whom I didn't attack in my normal way...

Valesse I was waiting to save herself. Had she voted for Gil, she would have made it - and could have blamed the vote for self-preservation. I waited with my vote-message ready-written for her to post and reacted as soon as I saw she had done so - it was important she voted first to make Gil the first with three votes. I confess howling out aloud in front of my screen as I realised that she hadn't voted Gil.

So I realised being the small and lonely wolf among the frightening eight villagers, seer and ranger included... and decided to make a fight for it. Really, then I considered my chances quite minuscule indeed.

But it was sooo much fun!

Lommy I will have to re-christen to Lommy the Noggie's-Bane. This was the second time she actually triggered or arranged my death as a wolf and once she was one of the voters. Beautiful gaming Lommy! You had your eyes open!

Great gifted-work Boro and Volo! I remember Boro's earlier Seer-work too. You are just the the Absolute Seer! And Volo, you really started to annoy me when I realised that you had denied me the second time... You really made an impressive entry to the WW! Although in the end I think it was not so bad to my "career" in the game that there were those two denials...

And really, Macalaure. I'm actually apologising to you my last words to you in the game. I just couldn't resist the temptation to add some emotional scenes to our RPG-element (and to make myself look a bit more innocent, perhaps? )...

And how happy I was when I realised that the others didn't listen to you Naria! You had astonishingly clear eyes! A bow to your direction.

Kath: very skillful indeed! You managed to play so reasonably that it was really hard to try to construct a real case against you in the end and so I had to go on with the "I trust you" -manner. That was one nail in my coffin.

And kudos to all those dying early too! You played beautifully as long as it lasted.

And even though I kind of disliked the "he-factor" -slippage which in the end nailed me (I'm not saying I would have been a sure winner without it, but my chances would have been lot better), a big hand to Glirdy! You modded well, and the whole RPG-idea was just outstanding! I really enjoyed this game!

PS. My last kill choices. Boro and Mac because they were trusted by almost all and because they trusted myself. Why would a wolf do that? Well, that's just why... (And surely I was quite sure Boro was the Seer.)

Lovely!

[Boromir88]

It turns out now that I was actually the casualty of a Seer's dream~Menel

It did help that I had dreamed of you. And even though if I knew you were joking, I just used a passed experience with Wolf Formendacil as my reason to jump on you so that it didn't look too seerish and I could lay low for a while.

You dreamt of Mac, but why did you have Volo and Nog on your list?~Naria

I was thinking the same thing and was regretting doing it. I was pleading people to listen to you and Kath. After getting Valesse (sorry ), I was 99% sure I was the one targeted and then protected that night, so I pretty much knew I was dead meat the next day. I told myself that if the Ranger came out and said who he protected (glad you didn't Volo that was a great move), I would then come out and declare my seerness and reveal everything. However, this did not happen so I tried to stress the fact that I knew Mac was innocent, and as far as Nogrod and Volo, those were the two I felt were the most innocent, and was just going off a 'feeling' of them. In which one of those was wrong. Then you and Kath picked up on that very well, just it was hard getting people to believe you, especially with Nogrod around twisting things.

Nogrod, plain and simply I'm still shocked you were a wolf. Like I said in the game you'd be the greatest back-stabbing, yet brilliant wolf if you pulled off a win.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Then you and Kath picked up on that very well, just it was hard getting people to believe you, especially with Nogrod around twisting things.

That's what we lycantrophes are here to do to survive...

Nogrod, plain and simply I'm still shocked you were a wolf. Like I said in the game you'd be the greatest back-stabbing, yet brilliant wolf if you pulled off a win.

Well, in the end I didn't... but who cares? It was so much fun that the win would have been just one more spice to the stew - a nice one to be sure - but anyway. As I said, I really enjoyed playing again and am more than happy with the game as it went!

Originally Posted by Volo

But then this last question that I have wondered for some time! Did Nogrod ask Glirdan to make "the mistake"?
EDIT: it seems not...

Correct! I may be a "sporty player" who likes to take risks and try daring tactics (as voting for Sleepy was, as I wanted to finish the game the "beautiful way", however it would turn out), but I'm not wishing to play it at a "Deity-level"... which that request would have made it!

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Valesse

I'd like to hear Nogrod's reasons for the other deaths, and why no one considered why the oh-so-innocent Nogrod lasted so long during the nights?

Hey, I got to it on the last day!

Originally Posted by Naria

After I died you guys should have heard me...I wanted to reach through the screen, on several occasions, and strangle some of you.

Poor you.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Lommy I will have to re-christen to Lommy the Noggie's-Bane. This was the second time she actually triggered or arranged my death as a wolf and once she was one of the voters. Beautiful gaming Lommy! You had your eyes open!

I don't even want to see the game where I'm a wolf and you're innocent though...

Besides, this game earned a new title for Menel. He might from now on call himself a Fenris Wolf. Almost all of us are proud to have the title (see signatures). Though, there's one traitor, and he would even have the honorary title Fenris Penguin...

[Boromir88]

Though, there's one traitor, and he would even have the honorary title Fenris Penguin...

You wouldn't be referring to me now would you?

That wasn't an accurate portrayal, I just need to learn to shut my mouth sometimes. (Or I guess my fingers?)

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

You wouldn't be referring to me now would you?

That wasn't an accurate portrayal, I just need to learn to shut my mouth sometimes. (Or I guess my fingers?)

You could be proud of your mistakes... (like me)