Tol-In-Gauroth XXIV: Battle of the Band[Wagon]

[Boromir88]

Boromir, I don't understand your suspicion of Celuien.~Folwren

I think you mean to say you don't agree. You show that you understand it quite well, it isn't all that complicated, but you just don't agree. Which is perfectly ok, I'm offering ideas and possibilities, you can either agree with them or not (obviously). I like an objective opinion though, it let's me see the whole picture better, as we can all be narrow-minded at times.

It's funny that Boro left himself out from his Volo-analysis of people (albeit the reasoning).

Believe me or not, it's up to you, but I think you have a good knowledge of how my family is, and I never do an analysis on myself, nor include myself in any of my own lists.

It's also funny that the adventures of his father play such a role (at least three mentionings) in his arguments. Like he would like to show himself as the innocent one being again used for his confidence of others... what could be better for a wolf?

Why do you find it 'funny' that I use past experiences for an argument against people? That's what we all do, that's what this whole thing over strategy is about. What is the typical way wolves usually act? Does somebody's actions remind me of a wolves action in a past experience? How do I think each singer would act like as a wolf, based upon their family history. I used the village most recently, because you can't deny that the outcome of that village changed the way I started feeling about trusting people based off of votes. If you are more inquiry, you can search through all my records, I used experiences of past villages in all of them.

This might just be aslip of the hands on the keyboard, but why on earth would an innocent go about with that kind of contradiction?

Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't notice that before. Should read 'I'm now inclined...' as I've been saying since my very first post today I think Folwren is likely innocent.

Aren't you a bit too happy to cast the guilt? I mean you don't give us any reasons.

I do give reasons, in that same post, you just missed them for some reason. They're right there for everyone to see:

Call me a softy, but I've brought into Folwren's pleads. In the chaos and upped pace of the last minutes yesterday, it's understandable that Folwren was voting to save her life (eventhough if it turned out to be unnecessary).

Which leads me to Glirdan who has continued an attack on Folwren today. Since I find Folwren innocent, it's either that Glirdan is an innocent that fell into the wolves plan. Or he actually is a wolf pushing for Folwren's lynching. From what I know of Glirdan (which has been a very short history of records) he is the agressive attack type, so it wouldn't surprise me if he's a wolf in this situation.

Then there's Thinlomien, who got the ball rolling yesterday against Folwren. I had agreed with Thinlo's points, as because as far as Day 1's go it was one of the more sensible looking arguments. But, as the Day closed yesterday I grew wary of a vote against Folwren (for rather obvious reasons that I've made more clear today).

Sorry Boro. I have kind of lost our mutual trust for now, but that doesn't mean I'm right right now.

I don't expect to simply just have trust. I have to earn it and so far, at least for you, I haven't earned it; that's completely understandable.

What caught my eye was Boro's analysis of Volo. He says that we cannot make much out of his first two posts, which is correct, but he then immediately turns to his last post, forgetting the third. This is not the kind of fault that I am used to see of Boromir and made me wary.~Mac

I can understand how you think that, as I didn't make any mention of his 3rd post. I did take it into consideration, just didn't mention it because it wasn't much help. First off it was a summary, second of all his thoughts intertwined are either simply agreeing/disagreeing, or regurgitations of his last post.

Edit: x-posted with Diamond

[Boromir88]

Bloody hell... this is the first time I've been able to get the 'Downs to work in the past... 12 hours.~Di

It appears that a lot have been having this...as there's been very little action and I've been trying too...it's still acting a bit sluggish.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Yeah It takes forever just to get to make a reply and if I try to look at the previouse pages, I loose conection completely. It makes this whole thing a bit harder. . . anyhow I am around for the next bit of time.

[Celuien]

I can finally post! Been trying for about 12 hours.

We have two votes so far - Eonwe for Glirdan and Mac for Durelin. I can't say that I find either vote recipient suspicious. My family has known their families for many generations. Durelin has seemed so far to be following in the footsteps of the innocent foremothers my family knew, so though I'm not sure that she's innocent, she has an innocent feel for me. As for Glirdy, he is the prototypical innocent Glirdy who finds a hunch and runs with it, then gets the village after him until being lynched. I continue to feel pretty certain that he is not a wolf.

Originally Posted by Diamond

It looked to me like Volo wasnt really aware that he was doomed when he posted that up. He'd posted earlier saying he was working on a post and at that point his fate was not sealed. So I suspect that post is still in the mindset of a wolf trying to fool the village into thinking its the viewpoint of an innocent.

That's a good point. It's hard for me to figure out the exact timeline. I still don't trust the post as far as I can throw it.

I'm not really sure whom I should vote for. Boromir is making me unasy, but I don't trust myself since that's largely based on our spat. Must think...