WWJ XII: "Oh the tangled web we weave..."

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Often, those that spoke first were wolves; I trust you will understand that I speak first now so that others may have the courage to speak their minds also, and if I go to my death today or tonight at least I will have had my say.

I am aware all three of these statements apply to me, and therefore my chances of seeing sunset are quite slim already. I will then try to be as helpful as I can in what little time I have, for my allegiance lies with the villagers, as my death will confirm.

I am aware that according to my own advice, I am the logical choice for today's lynching - but so be it.

Your constant return to the idea of being lynched is not instilling much confidence within me. It seems each time you bring it up in this first post you are trying to play the innocent and gain our pity by "admitting" you are a likely canidate for the noose. I find what you say sense, so I can't see why you would claim it would be the death of you. If anything ends your life today it will be the references to how your life will end today.

Some innocents will try to lead us out of this misery, too. But you're right in part. Since a thing will die earlier than a wolf, they can lead us without worry. A wolf that leads us wrong will meet the vengeance of the innocents before the end, while a thing dies before that can happen.

Keep in mind the Weaver, the Seer, and the Ranger (more than just innocents, super innocents if you will) are probably going to be trying to lead as well as the Things. It's hard to be rational Day One, but don't be rash and jump immediately on the leaders. Think before acting.

Random accusations are a curse, I tell you, even if admitted. They usually give the accuser a sure raise on everybody's suspicion list. Demanding explanation is a good counsel. Look for crooked explanations!

I say I'd rather see a random vote than no vote though. Because most times even the most random vote has some sort of reasoning behind it. Even with flimsy reasoning it is better to give a reason than simply vote and hope for the best.

Because if I don't point it out, someone else will

[sarcasm]And thus the point of the game was realized...[/sarcasm]
Someone is going to suspect you and often times due to posts that state "I know I look guilty and I'll probably be lynched, but..."

Which will expose the things. Bandwagons are easy to hide in!

Lone votes are equally as easy to hide in. Safe votes are common, so while one Thing might jump on a bandwagon the other two could just do little safe votes to cover their tracks. Much can be taken from bandwagon votes.

I think Mac and Rikae are the most suspicious so far (for me at least) and Lommy comes in a distant third.

Rikae's first vote makes me feel very uneasy. Her constant return to the fact "I'll probably be lynched" and "My death will prove my innocence" is unnerving. Also I'm a bit suspcious of the comparsions of other games, when comparing this villages to other villages could have no real bearing in the end. Her points in the first post state the obvious and though she hasn't taken all sides into consideration I think she is thinking logically. I was extremely worried about her after reading her first posts, but my susipicions have lessened a bit after reading further.

Mac on the other hand. I am far more worried about him. Some have commented on his attack of Rikae and of him showing her in a bad light. He has said he wasn't and he didn't mean too. This is what worries me. He went through her post, picked it apart, threw a lot of attention in her direction and then says "no, no, I was just pointing this out...". I worry because commenting on one or two points is nothing serious, but he did more than one or two points. And he keeps returning to his defense of "not attacking Rikae" causing her to remain in the spotlight. Rikae was already in the spotlight because of Lommy, but Mac continued to keep her there. He states he "defended" Rikae against Lommy and that screams guilty in my mind. He's making sure we notice Rikae and if she dies innocent in the next day or two we'll remember Mac was saying so all along. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it seems a bit foul to me.

[Macalaure]

First off, I agree with what Folwren states about Lommy. I'm quite uneasy about her, for the same reasons.


The first time I played with Kitanna I was suspicious about her very early on - and she turned out to be the ranger. Now, again, I feel very suspicious about her because of her last post. I don't know what to make of this.

Originally Posted by Kitanna, about Rikae

Her constant return to the fact "I'll probably be lynched" and "My death will prove my innocence" is unnerving.Also I'm a bit suspcious of the comparsions of other games, when comparing this villages to other villages could have no real bearing in the end. Her points in the first post state the obvious and though she hasn't taken all sides into consideration I think she is thinking logically.

Constant return? She only returned to it because other people talked about it. And if you say Rikae just stated the obvious, then why did you comment on the obvious just before?

Originally Posted by Kitanna, about me

And he keeps returning to his defense of "not attacking Rikae" causing her to remain in the spotlight. Rikae was already in the spotlight because of Lommy, but Mac continued to keep her there. He states he "defended" Rikae against Lommy and that screams guilty in my mind. He's making sure we notice Rikae and if she dies innocent in the next day or two we'll remember Mac was saying so all along.

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. Many have said I attacked Rikae, and I agree that it might have looked like it, but I don't feel her guilty (not in the beginning and even less now), so I'm making exactly that clear to everybody who asks. Even though Lommy voted for her, I don't think she'll be lynched today, so I don't think that the plan you think I'm having would even work.

I was extremely worried about her after reading her first posts, but my susipicions have lessened a bit after reading further.
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Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it seems a bit foul to me.

Do I see a pattern behind that?
I've seen that kind of relativising of suspicion before, but mostly from wolves.

[Kitanna]

Constant return? She only returned to it because other people talked about it.

In her first post she brought it up about four times right after making a point. I'd call that a constant return.

[Macalaure]

No, it's this:

Originally Posted by me

First off, I agree with what Folwren states about Lommy. I'm quite uneasy about her, for the same reasons.

I know what you will say, that these were not my own thoughts and it's easy to just agree. You would be right about that. But Folwren, whom I feel very innocent at the moment by the way, exactly said what I thought and I didn't feel like repeating.