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MatthewM · 10-15-2006, 05:06 PM

Ahh what's the point? Aragorn chose to go after Merry and Pip, what happened happened!

Elladan and Elrohir · 10-19-2006, 03:52 PM

See, I disagree. I think that Aragorn would have taken Gollum with them to Mordor. After all, how do you lose him? You can't kill him when he's your prisoner, and they wouldn't "just tie him up and leave him" either, as Sam suggests in the TTT film. Gollum is a lot more dangerous if you don't take him along, so I think they would have to. There would be no "taming" him, though, not with Aragorn around.

But yeah, regardless, the Quest was sunk if Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas accompanied Frodo and Sam, even if they'd made it to Mount Doom.

CSteefel · 10-19-2006, 08:30 PM

The whole key to the strategy was to distract Sauron from the Hobbits' Quest. So it was essential to have the King and Gandalf over on the other side of the river, both to save Minas Tirith, but also for the purpose of distracting Sauron.

Also, the Quest into Mordor is really one of secrecy. Aragorn is perfectly suited for this, except for his size, given his experience in the Wild (after all, he found Gollum in the Dead Marshes). But the Hobbits, with the guidance of Gollum, were suited for this as well, basically another story where the Hobbits are brought along because of their "burglar-like" qualities--small size, stealth, noiseless movement...

doug*platypus · 11-14-2006, 01:52 AM

Movies or book, it's quite simple. If Aragorn had not gone west, there would have been no Paths of the Dead. No army to defeat the Corsairs of Umbar, and another host of enemies sailing up the Anduin rather than slimy green salvation. If Aragorn had gone with Frodo, Minas Tirith would have been lost.

10-15-2006, 05:06 PM	#1
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 628	Ahh what's the point? Aragorn chose to go after Merry and Pip, what happened happened! __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring

10-19-2006, 03:52 PM	#2
Elladan and Elrohir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 332	See, I disagree. I think that Aragorn would have taken Gollum with them to Mordor. After all, how do you lose him? You can't kill him when he's your prisoner, and they wouldn't "just tie him up and leave him" either, as Sam suggests in the TTT film. Gollum is a lot more dangerous if you don't take him along, so I think they would have to. There would be no "taming" him, though, not with Aragorn around. But yeah, regardless, the Quest was sunk if Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas accompanied Frodo and Sam, even if they'd made it to Mount Doom. __________________ "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved. All I did was give your uncle a little nudge out of the door." THE HOBBIT - IT'S COMING

11-14-2006, 01:52 AM	#4
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	Movies or book, it's quite simple. If Aragorn had not gone west, there would have been no Paths of the Dead. No army to defeat the Corsairs of Umbar, and another host of enemies sailing up the Anduin rather than slimy green salvation. If Aragorn had gone with Frodo, Minas Tirith would have been lost. __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.

10-19-2006, 08:30 PM	#3
CSteefel Wight Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 204	The whole key to the strategy was to distract Sauron from the Hobbits' Quest. So it was essential to have the King and Gandalf over on the other side of the river, both to save Minas Tirith, but also for the purpose of distracting Sauron. Also, the Quest into Mordor is really one of secrecy. Aragorn is perfectly suited for this, except for his size, given his experience in the Wild (after all, he found Gollum in the Dead Marshes). But the Hobbits, with the guidance of Gollum, were suited for this as well, basically another story where the Hobbits are brought along because of their "burglar-like" qualities--small size, stealth, noiseless movement...