Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXVI - Úcenite Valto - Planning and Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Estelyn Telcontar · 11-11-2006, 03:12 AM

Úcenite = "not-seeing" (source: quenya lapseparma)

Valto = "luck" (source: ambar-eldaron)

"blind luck/chance" looks like the Quenya definition of the title...

Mithalwen · 11-11-2006, 06:30 AM

The no wolves scenario also occured to me .... but maybe it will be yet more devious.... certainly it won't be dull....

Oh Phantom, really Kate Beckinsale was read languages at Cambridge (or Oxford I forget.. so she probably is brighter than me.... maybe I should have said I am wider than Kate B .. which is certainly true alas....

the phantom · 11-11-2006, 11:16 AM

"Blind luck", eh Esty?

You know what that means. Everyone polish your coins, cause we're going to be doing some flipping.

But why, I wonder? Perhaps the gifts (ranger, hunter) and the curses (werewolves) switch people every night randomly, so the same person is usually not a wolf two days in a row. So when we lynch someone who has the werewolf curse, we haven't actually found someone who's been a WW all along- we've merely found a person who just happened to be one on that day, and eliminated one of the three WW curses that is bouncing around in the village.

And you're just trying to be modest, Mith. I know better.

Kath · 11-11-2006, 11:18 AM

phantom, if that isn't Fea's plan for the game, I sincerely suggest you mod one yourself in the new future and implement it because it sounds like a fantastic idea.

the phantom · 11-11-2006, 11:33 AM

Maybe next summer, Kath.

And I just noticed Di has been added. In the words of Magneto, "Welcome to the brotherhood".

Roa_Aoife · 11-11-2006, 12:00 PM

From the list of players, I think it's safe to say this will be the noisiest game of werewolf since Deuling Wizards. Let's see if we can't get 4 pages by the end of Day 1.

Blind Luck? Sweet! That's how I always win!

the phantom · 11-11-2006, 12:38 PM

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I think it's safe to say this will be the noisiest game of werewolf since Deuling Wizards. Let's see if we can't get 4 pages by the end of Day 1.

We'll see. I think it might depend on the rules. If the rules allow for lots of strategy talk, then we will see the fourth page easily, but if the rules negate strategy and exclusively promote "blind luck", then we won't have much to say.

On the issue of not having a Seer, it seems to me that there must be a WW weakness to balance this. For villages have a history of losing even with a Seer. Without a Seer the deck is stacked against the village in a huge way unless the WWs also have something taken away from them.

Perhaps they aren't allowed to pm with each other except through a mod, and they don't know the identities of their fellow wolves?

Or perhaps there is only one WW?!

Now that would be insane. There'd be no way to identify him/her with votes because there would be no fellow wolves to work with. And take away the Seer and there is no way at all to spot the lone WW. It would indeed be blind luck.

11-11-2006, 03:12 AM	#1
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Úcenite = "not-seeing" (source: quenya lapseparma) Valto = "luck" (source: ambar-eldaron) "blind luck/chance" looks like the Quenya definition of the title... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

11-11-2006, 06:30 AM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	The no wolves scenario also occured to me .... but maybe it will be yet more devious.... certainly it won't be dull.... Oh Phantom, really Kate Beckinsale was read languages at Cambridge (or Oxford I forget.. so she probably is brighter than me.... maybe I should have said I am wider than Kate B .. which is certainly true alas.... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

11-11-2006, 11:16 AM	#3
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	"Blind luck", eh Esty? You know what that means. Everyone polish your coins, cause we're going to be doing some flipping. But why, I wonder? Perhaps the gifts (ranger, hunter) and the curses (werewolves) switch people every night randomly, so the same person is usually not a wolf two days in a row. So when we lynch someone who has the werewolf curse, we haven't actually found someone who's been a WW all along- we've merely found a person who just happened to be one on that day, and eliminated one of the three WW curses that is bouncing around in the village. And you're just trying to be modest, Mith. I know better. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

11-11-2006, 11:18 AM	#4
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	phantom, if that isn't Fea's plan for the game, I sincerely suggest you mod one yourself in the new future and implement it because it sounds like a fantastic idea. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

11-11-2006, 11:33 AM	#5
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Maybe next summer, Kath. And I just noticed Di has been added. In the words of Magneto, "Welcome to the brotherhood". __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

11-11-2006, 12:00 PM	#6
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	From the list of players, I think it's safe to say this will be the noisiest game of werewolf since Deuling Wizards. Let's see if we can't get 4 pages by the end of Day 1. Blind Luck? Sweet! That's how I always win! __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen