WWJ XIII: 'Til Death Do We LARP

[Boromir88]

I don't know if Valier's reasoning is all that illogical. I think it's possible the wolves believed Rune was actually the cobbler, they saw his duty done so they killed him. Now why would wolves want to kill their ally?

Well as we all know the Cobbler doesn't know who the wolves are, and the wolves don't know who the Cobbler is. However, the Cobbler's duty is to stir as much confusion as possible. As Rune I think has certainly done this, because of the wolves choice.

I have memoirs from ancestors who were cursed, and they talk about actually killing a person they suspected to be the Cobbler. Since the Cobbler is trying to sew as much disorder and confusion as possible, and killing the Cobbler would do just that. As we don't know what we can take from the Cobbler's death. The wolves can effectively use a Cobbler by not only keeping him alive but actually killing him.

I don't know if lynching Naria or CoD would be the best thing either. As I have yet to see why either of them our wolves. Grant it, I think it would clear away this Rune thing, if neither of them are wolves what good does that do? We can't fiddle around much longer and keep on making these mistakes just so we can put to rest this 'Rune conversation.' If I can see a reasoning (which I will be looking at both of them) that one (or even both) are wolves, than let's do it. But, I'm not too fond of this idea...'let's just lynch one of them so we can figure out what the wolves were planning when they killed Rune.' We don't got a lot of room for error left.

I may just go back to my first night vote for Farael...he seems a bit hasty here. Perhaps for real life reasons he wasn't active for the first couple days. Then yesterday he comes in too late to vote. He's sure making his presence known today.

What I mean by he seems hasty, is first off I don't understand this:

More often than not, wolves will not kill someone who has just accused them if they think that person is the Seer. If Rune had turned out to be the seer, I would think that the wolves would have avoided killing him right there and then, because it would have meant the death of a wolvish Naria

I forget who pointed it out, but wolves would gladly make a sacrifice to nab the Seer....especially when the Seer is the only gifted in the village and the wolves have the amount of success they have had so far.

Also, I don't like this Durelin, CoD, and myself trio you've concocted up. How about we focus on just getting one wolf before we start thinking of who his/her partners are? While it's good to look for connections and possible 'partnerships' it's virtually useless until we actually get a wolf to go off of. When we get these groups of 'trios' before even finding one wolf it creates confusion and a mass of possibilities that may not even be true (especially if a wolf is the one making the 'trio'). To me it looks like you're attempting to group people together, attach 'wolf trio' to them, and trying to fool everyone into follow along with you.

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I may just go back to my first night vote for Farael...he seems a bit hasty here. Perhaps for real life reasons he wasn't active for the first couple days. Then yesterday he comes in too late to vote. He's sure making his presence known today.

What I mean by he seems hasty, is first off I don't understand this:

I forget who pointed it out, but wolves would gladly make a sacrifice to nab the Seer....especially when the Seer is the only gifted in the village and the wolves have the amount of success they have had so far.

Also, I don't like this Durelin, CoD, and myself trio you've concocted up. How about we focus on just getting one wolf before we start thinking of who his/her partners are? While it's good to look for connections and possible 'partnerships' it's virtually useless until we actually get a wolf to go off of. When we get these groups of 'trios' before even finding one wolf it creates confusion and a mass of possibilities that may not even be true (especially if a wolf is the one making the 'trio'). To me it looks like you're attempting to group people together, attach 'wolf trio' to them, and trying to fool everyone into follow along with you.

My friend, you are free to make your own choices, that's why I took the time to go through, post by post, CoD's comments. I tried to show my reasoning. Flawed? only the wolves, and perhaps the Seer, know it. Does that mean I want people to follow me? well, I think I'm right, thus I do want people to follow me... so I lay out the facts, and I say the way I see them so that perhaps others will see things the same way I do.

Is that a wolfish tactic? I don't think so, after all, you are doing the same. Are you a wolf, Mr. Boromir?

And this "trio" of mine surged from my analysis of CoD it is just a consequence of what I saw happening, and something I thought I'd bring up. After all, none of us ordos knows when he'll be killed, either by lynching or by murdering. I think we are best off speakin as much as we can, when RL does not get in the way. Besides, that way we are much more likely to step on some furry toes. Eventually things will become clear, and I hope that three (game) days from now, someone will look back and say "hey, maybe Farael wasn't that far off... if we add these new facts to what he said on day 3, maybe he was on to something".

Or maybe someone will say "look... Farael said this, the wolves did this and this, which means that it is likely that such and such is a wolf!"

Who knows what may happen? I say we do our best to explain ourselves to the fullest and let others make their own choices. That does not mean toss accusations randomly, but if there is something you think you should bring up, why not? Afraid of getting killed? only the furry ones should be.

[Thinlómien]

I'm growing wary of Lommy over there whom is pushing the wolves must have believed Rune was the seer, and claims she knows exactly why he was killed...because of his comments. This rings some alarms in my head. Such narrow-minded thinking into believing only one 'right answer' is dangerous. If you are innocent, you should open your mind a bit.

Well, when I was asking myself why Rune was killed I remembered that post, checked it and was quite confident I was right since it all fit so "beautifully". I still think I'm right about that, but of course I can't be sure because I can't read the wolves' minds. So, I acknowledge the possibility of me being wrong. I don't deny that the wolves could have killed Rune to frame Naria and make CoD look innocent, but one could think they would be more intent on seer-hunting. In my opinion the seer's their worst threat right now, because they are "winning" since there's 7 innocent people and all the three wolves are still alive. The seer, however, has the potential to turn the situation upside down for our good.

And CoD seems to be continuing his annoying tactic of retaliatory suspicion...

[Valier]

My time is limited today, but I will return a few hours before the deadline. My vote will go to either Naria or CoD. One needs to go, so we can put aside this Rune thing. I am unsure who should go though...I would like to hear more from both.

[Volo]

I'm out of ideas just like earlier, sorry, but at least I should thank Farael for his post that may still turn me into some use.

The only new things that I can say is a mixed feeling about Nogrod being a wolf, it is strange that he hasn't been killed yet and that makes him look wolfish, but it is great that he doesn't die first in every game...

And his innocence is boosted by the fact that nobody has accused him, meaning that often the seer targets Nogrod on the first day. The only things I don't really like from his actions is

Originally Posted by Nogrod, #82

Of whom I seem to have no read-out whatsoever:
Farael
Gurthang
Volo
Rune
Naria

and his vote on the first day.

I'm not really sure why, but his deciding vote for wierd Anguirel feels evil. And that list of players that have written confusingly, it has an air of "don't listen to those"...

Of Farael I'll just say that the long post itself is reassuring and I doubt that most wolves would write something like that, for that I really feel like voting ++CoD.

Other players I wouldn't go far enough to trust even mildly.

I'm late even now as I write so bye.