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Old 11-17-2006, 10:46 AM   #11
Nogrod
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Borolysis Part I

I’m trying to restrict this to those remarks that have something to do with people alive here, but I can’t promise that if something interesting shows up...


DAY1
#10
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I'm always the red-shirted Mr. Johnson that travels with Kirk, Spock, and Mccoy, on an expeditionary team and ends up dying...so I'm looking at our Mr. Shatner over there.
The infamous point towards Durelin that I think went to arouse discussion, rather misinterpreted, more like in-character banter, I would say.

#25
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Thinlo...I really am having trouble understanding your logic...

I mean I know it's Day 1 and all, and we all are grasping at straws here. But honestly CoD is one of the most innocent looking people (at least to me). Really he is the only one that has spoken some decent sense to me so far (see above quote [eg. keeping an eye on Farael and Durelin]), instead of complete bilge. I won't cast my vote for somebody that's been trying to make some sense out of the non-sensical Day 1's.
So questioning Lommy’s logic, Defending CoD and agreeing with keeping an eye on Farael.

Now this looks interesting...
#31
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Yes, the wolves do like to get out there and get the village turning (right now, for me, Nogrod, Anguirel, and CoD would fall under here). However, I wouldn't put it past at least one of the wolves to say very little (if anything at all) on Day 1...while one or both of their buddies go out and get their hands dirtied.

On those three above, I probably won't vote for any of them, today...though Nogrod looks the most dangerous (of the three). His suspicion of CoD looks a little bold for a wolf to make, but with his family history I wouldn't put anything past him. So, I guess you could say I'll be watching Nogrod.
So first of all he makes himself to look suspicious (among two known innocents and CoD). Then he declares that at least one wolf would be silent (Naria! – at least). Then he suspects me because what I’ve said about CoD – so again defending him and / or using him as a reason to suspect me mildly.

#46
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I've seen those types of 'playful' interactions between wolves on Day 1 before. Where the wolves joke around and have this interaction going on...hence why I thought you seemed to be making the most sense out of anybody....and why I too am suspicious of Farael and Durelin. Now with you backing away, after seemingly the concensus was you were barking up the wrong tree, and has ultimately caused you to fall under some scrutiny, you have fallen back in my eyes.

I do find Durelin and Farael's interactions today quite troubling...as this attitude of 'playfulness' is not uncommon or unheard of for wolves to do on Day 1. I've witnessed it between wolf partners before and is not something that I take lightly or simply cast aside as nonsensical rubbish.
First he goes to agree with CoD in reasoning about his innocence, then comes the quote above. I’m not quite sure what it means. But surely in the end he comes back suspecting Farael and Durelin again.

After Durelin notified Boro’s not-normal behaviour he posted the following:
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Durelin, you're last two posts may have saved a vote from me at least for today. Looks quite observant and a bit helpful to me, if I may say so. You have correctly noticed that I have not been my usual self...due to various factors such as lack of time, lack of sleep, and lack of substantial stuff to comment on. Honestly, everything I've said is everything I felt was worth commenting on...
Thence he absolved Durelin and voted for Farael.


DAY2
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Durelin the one that's raising the biggest eyebrows for me. I'm not used to see this talkative Durelin that is seemingly coming out here in the wee hours of the morning to try to sway the village in the direction the wolves want it to go in. Something just doesn't seem right, here. I was wary of the interaction with Durelin and Farael yesterday, and Durelin has only heigtened my suspicion of that.

The more I think about it the more this makes sense. I find no particular reason to suspect CoD, and I really didn't get what the big fuss over Anguirel was about. This would make the Rikae kill work in their benefit to give us no direction on where to look...yet the wolves may have come out here trying to make it look like Rikae was on to something...and send us all in the wrong direction.
So he turned against Durelin again (no mention of Farael here). Yet defending CoD and indeed suggesting that the wolves would have killed Rikae to make us suspect CoD – and thence being in the wrong tracks!!!

#97
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I agree with Ang in that if Lommy was a wolf she made a very safe wolve vote. However, the vast majority of the time a wolf doesn't vote first, they like to wait around and see what the village is thinking a bit before they choose. Also, what Lommy's said today makes her look innocent to me.

Volo just scares me because of his inactivity and his few confusing posts with some type of foreign language (German?). He could be the cobbler, but I don't have enough to go off of, besides the fact that he was confusing, and still is baffling me.
He looks at the CoD/Ang voters, ending up suspecting Durelin and Gurthang. Vote to Gurthang follows... So “assuming” again CoD innocent? He notifies Volo the first time in the game here and only says the above. Hmm...?


DAY3
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I have gone through Rune's posts. There are a few possibilities running through my head.

1) The wolves killed Rune to confuse us even further and continue us spiralling in circles. It may have worked better than they intended as it just so happens they kill the cobbler...so exactly how much info can we get out of Rune's posts?

2) The wolves as Lommy points out believed Rune was the seer and this would put a mark on Naria and Volo...as those seem to be the two people he 'suspected' the most. This begs the again, just exactly how much reliablity can we put in Rune's 'suspicions?'

I'm growing wary of Lommy over there whom is pushing the wolves must have believed Rune was the seer, and claims she knows exactly why he was killed...because of his comments. This rings some alarms in my head. Such narrow-minded thinking into believing only one 'right answer' is dangerous. If you are innocent, you should open your mind a bit.
Now interesting stuff again... He really tries to make us believe there is no value in going through Rune’s posting as it would mean that Naria (a wolf) and Volo would look bad. So he was defending a wolf-Naria. The question remains whether he was also defending his other mate? And where did Volo drop in her from anyway? What Lommy said was that if Rune was a seer then Naria would be bad and CoD good. Could it be that Rune said to trust or feel innocent or not having an idea about all others but:
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Originally Posted by Rune
Volo i am uneasy about. . .I will let him be today though (because he is not pressent)
Naria is a wolf and need to be delt with (meaning I suspect her)
It’s also interesting to see that when Lommy seemed to hit the right track he calls it narrow-minded... worthy of suspicion even? Or was he trying to teach a fellow-wolf some manners (indirectly saying to her: do not continue that line, we’re in danger here)?

In #153 he spends a considerable amount of energy to make us buy the version that Rune was a cobbler and killed because of that. Looks to me that he was even more intent to defend Naria (and Volo?). Anyhow he wishes us to leave the Rune-issue behind us and pressures us – we have no more time for mistakes so let’s go forwards. Saying: lynching Naria or CoD not good ideas. So trying to take back the slipped notion on Volo here?

Was it that pressurising then? So both wolves there?

He also calls Farael hasty and declines the trio Durelin, CoD, Boro, complaining that we should get one wolf first before going after any trios...

In #160 he continues objecting to the Rune-theory and says we are on a slippery road as we concentrate on two people only (a good argument, even if its made by a wolf). He calls it dangerous indeed! So he really wishes us to turn from that road (killing Naria or CoD – Volo has now totally dropped from the talk)

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The main person being Farael whom I'm highly suspicious of.

For some others. Lommy worried me at the beginning of the day, but lately that's lessened quite a bit...

The other person that I'm growing more concerned about is Volo, who seemingly is all over the place. First he says Nogrod is too bold to be a wolf as he is coming out and establishing arguments against people. He believed a wolf would not do such a thing. (I disagreed, especially when we're talking about Nogrod). Now he's come out and said that there really is no point to Nogrod's posts.

You also ask why the wolves haven't killed so far the quiet ones like Naria or Volo. I think either:

1) Naria or Volo (or both are wolves) hence they have not been killed yet. This I think is more likely in Volo's case who is completely everywhere.

2) This I feel is more likely with Naria, she's an easy target for a lynch. Simply kill Rune to get people to think the wolves believed he was the seer and the people will cry Naria's a wolf...lynch her. Hence, why she hasn't been killed, as she hasn't been feeling well and presumably not be able to put up much of a defense. Which would benefit the wolves in two ways to keep her around. It would first create a crisis of uncertainty in the village. Do we think Naria's a wolf? Eventhough she's been under the weather, this doesn't mean she isn't a wolf, yet we feel bad if she turns out to be innocent. But do to the circumstances, we actually won't know until Naria is lynched. The other benefit again, an easy lynch candidate for the next day.

I would much rather see Farael lynched. However, if it comes down to it, I will vote for Naria to save CoD. CoD seems more valuable to have than Naria. Regrettably Naria is not feeling well, but because of this she isn't going to be much help and will remain a thorn in our side.
Then something like a chance in course I might say. He still seems to defend Naria but puts CoD before her! Maybe he was feeling the need to distance himself from Naria as he saw that the village might indeed lynch her?

#176
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Farael I also feel more comfortable voting for instead of CoD or Naria, but we have to know what we're going to do, so we nor the wolves can botch anything here at the end.

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Part II with some summary-notes and ideas to follow (those comments of mine above are only preliminary remarks that I thought while reading through Boro's posting.
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