WWJ XIII: 'Til Death Do We LARP - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Volo · 11-17-2006, 01:59 PM

It does discourage you writing summaries knowing that you'll be lynched when at the same time you could do something moderately fun... I'll probably finish this Lommy-summary and then just go. (Just make sure that when you kill me you make it as cruelly as possible.) Who wants to join me with my last supper?

Volo · 11-17-2006, 02:11 PM

Sorry for flooding, but I really suggest Nogrod to use his time to think of other probabilities if (strangely

) you find that the last wolf isn't me.

Nogrod · 11-17-2006, 02:23 PM

Volo: if you're innocent you would like to use your time to help us other villagers (well, from toMorrow morning to me also, them) to make the best of toMorrow. If you know you're innocent you would bring in all you've got to help your fellows and die as a hero who possibly helped others!

But if you are a lycanthrope, then I can see your frustration. Why to defend oneself with arduos summaries if you're already dead?

Nogrod · 11-17-2006, 02:26 PM

... and why to confess if someone might still change their minds, if for example I would come up with a strong alternative case...

Volo · 11-17-2006, 02:41 PM

Dear friends,

I have made a summary of Lommy's posts and in the end may you come to the right conclusion:

Lommy

Day1

#18 First post with in character stuff. The first to suspect CoD, not a very good point, but I followed it… Anyway now we know that CoD didn’t try defending Durelin with that post.

#19 ”Am I really the only one alive? *sigh* I must vote quite soon and there's a pitiful amount of comments to conclude anything of. Must I really go with my feeble suspicion of CoD?” Gets no backup so far.

#22 Agrees with Anguirel that CoD might have meant his post ”defending” Durelin as a joke, but still votes him (CoD). Tells that the vote had bad reasoning, but day one… Leaves

Day2

#78 Says that Ang and Rikea would have been a helf being alive. Notices Boromir’s wolfish appology. Sees CoD quite innocent because of his calmness. Says about keeping an eye on Valier.

#91 Doesn’t find Durelin particulary suspicious. Doesn’t like Gurthang’s vote for Durelin (wrong again). Doesn’t like Diamond’s suspicion of Nogrod (here I somewhat find reason in Diamond’s actions) because Rikae died (but it’s true that this doesn’t have much sense).

#92 ”About Gurthang: I got my "bad feeling" pinned: it's that he always votes early when the vote is safe and then says "I might be back" or as today, comes back. I don't like this kind of behaviour at all. It gives him a "reason" to slip away from the discussion whenever he wants since he's already voted.” I don’t like suspicion for such things, I for one never try to ”escape conversations”, you might believe this when you find out that I am innocent. So, bad reasoning!

#106 I don’t like her suspicion on Boromir, it’s wolfish. ”He is somewhat suspicions but really not too suspisious and not worth noticing”, well you know what I mean. Others make more or less sense to me.

#107 Votes Gurthang, ok, I admit that Gurthang was really suspicios to me too when I read day2 during the next night. I don’t fully like her reasoning (about escaping conversations), but Gurthang did say things of little importance now and then. Keeps an eye on CoD.

Day3

#138 This speaks of Lommy’s innocense, she mentiones the reason Rune was lynched and probably got it right.

#155 Defends herself. Seems like she is talking sense, but to post only a self-defence is something strange from Lommy.

#161 Jokes about Nogrod and Boromir being the remaining wolves, it seems that she doesn’t suspect either of them too much here, Boromir somewhat, but not too straightforward.

#164 Sense I see. But Lommy is such a great WW player that I’d probably see sense in everything even a wolf-Lommy would write. What does this by the way mean: ”So, if I was to guess who the remaining wolves are, I'd say Naria, Boro and CoD or Volo, but I'm far from assured.” You know the last wolf? Yourself maybe? Well, anyway: from her suspicious list everybody is innocent as I see it, so it’s either Valier, Farael or Lommy herself that you have to go after.

#165 Clears her thoughts, nothing interesting.

#171 Her wits tell her to vote Naria and her guts tell her not to vote Naria… hmm. Comments my longest post so far (the Nogrod accusing angstfull post, that now is proved as rubbish).

#175 Votes Nariawolf, speaks for Lommy’s innocense, but anything can happen.

Day4

#200 Still suspects CoD (and me). Well, tomorrow she’ll either be happy or will find that she made a mistake. Desides to check everybody’s relations with Boromir and Naria (I am suspicious with that, and so is Valier).

#203 Votes known wolf Boromir

#205 No, I don’t agree with her about CoD… I might be wrong, but I hope I’m not. She makes me look like I eat a shaman’s breakfast each day, with lots of mushrooms. (HEY, I’M LYNCHED

)

Day5

#238 What else

. (She won’t able to poison your minds on day6, so be happy, or then she’s just trying to escape conversation (nah, not really, I’m not sure if she’s a wolf))

#239 Just a post about CoD not writing anything in the morning like usually, doesn’t mean anything. Somehow her flooding makes her look either very nervous (just like me being lynched right now…), or then she’s happy of high possibilities of winning as a wolf (umm… that’s also being nervous). But she wrote this while writing the Boromir and Naria relationship post.

#240 Her analysis of Boromir’s and Naria’s relations with other players. Speaks well for her innocense, she wouldn’t waste too much time on things like this being wolf, I think…

#241 At last finds CoD innocent… Thinks of Farael as an innocent also (those two I tend to agree with). Thinks that either me or Valier is guilty, me more than Valier. (Valier being better staying innocent as a wolf than me as an ordo. Hey, I would really like to learn writing well!)

#242 (guess who? Valier? No… Nogrod? No… Well who then? Lommy! You should get the additional title of ”spammer wolf”) Complains about others being absent, I’d also complain (even if I were absent myself). Votes me and starts a fatal bandwagon. Ok, I do seem more suspicious than Valier…

#243 (oh, another one… didn’t remember this one coming. Got seven bullets in your six shooter, that’s a skill!) and I posted straight after that…

So:

Some things just scream wolf, but most is so reasonable, that I see Valier far more wolf than the others. It feels like she was the first to suspect Naria and Boromir, but her gut told her not to vote them too swiftly... That seems rather wolfish, but she then voted them in the end. #164 does seem strange with "the remaining wolves" all wolves still being around and well.

Otherwise Lommy has been talking lots of sense and has helped the village so far. If she's a wolf and wins, I won't be too sad for you who lose next turn, she is a great wolf if she is one.

But, I find ++Valier scarier, I haven't gone through her posts as carefully, but I'd probably vote for her tomorrow if I were alive. Please look through her posts!

Yours sincerely,
Volo the Ordo.

PS: CoD will get my phones. Farael will get my balrog-suit. Give my weapons to charity.

CaptainofDespair · 11-17-2006, 03:05 PM

Oh, don't worry, Volo! I'll be sure to go through Valier quite thoroughly!

Nogrod · 11-17-2006, 03:58 PM

If Volo turns out to be innocent, please note the following.

Farael I haven't been able to look so closely. My judgement on him being innocent rests mainly on Boromir being so aggressively on him all the time.

CoD I think innocent mainly bacause of the opposite reasons: Boro's over-abundant trust seems just too much for a wolf-on-wolf -thing (and if it is one, it sure merits to conquer!). My case on his "seer-hint"-thing does not seem so good at this state of the game.

With Valier you should look at least the points I made in my last post where I though she posed a problem to me. There seems to be some actually suspicious things but also some innocentish ones. She could draw the innocentish ones even as a wolf but might also make suspicious moves being innocent.

And Lommy then. I'm inclined to believe her innocent, but... She will really be a master wolf if she is one. She was possibly a bit too confident with Naria (Valier noted this also), but if she just sticked with the most reasonable explanation, it could also make sense. Were she a wolf, it would really be one of the most daring and complicated plots made up by her and Boro ever seen in WW-history. But as I said, we easily interpret wolves too complicatedly. But do not pass the option as non-existing either.

Watch closely the reactions of this evening (like CoD's last one...). And also who did not react, who carefully backed off and the likes.

Good luck fellows! Sorry I couldn't be of more help... Bring the beast down: it's one of three to all of you and only one mudding the waters...

You can do it!

Farael · 11-17-2006, 03:59 PM

I'm extremely unsettled here... Volo has been very through today, and I just have this weird feeling... sadly, this is the last minute of the day, and there is no time to do any other thing than lynch him.

Well, Volo if you are an ordo, my apologies... if not, rott in the void!!!

JennyHallu · 11-17-2006, 04:02 PM

Creepy quiet day, but it's over now. Volo's dead, and innocent.

Wolf, please include Folwren in your kill choice tonight. I feel terrible about it, but no narrations are going to get written until after we move. Folwren will be handling the opening and closing of the next day for me, bless her!

11-17-2006, 02:23 PM	#3
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Volo: if you're innocent you would like to use your time to help us other villagers (well, from toMorrow morning to me also, them) to make the best of toMorrow. If you know you're innocent you would bring in all you've got to help your fellows and die as a hero who possibly helped others! But if you are a lycanthrope, then I can see your frustration. Why to defend oneself with arduos summaries if you're already dead? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-17-2006, 02:26 PM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	... and why to confess if someone might still change their minds, if for example I would come up with a strong alternative case... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-17-2006, 02:41 PM	#5
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	Dear friends, I have made a summary of Lommy's posts and in the end may you come to the right conclusion: Lommy Day1 #18 First post with in character stuff. The first to suspect CoD, not a very good point, but I followed it… Anyway now we know that CoD didn’t try defending Durelin with that post. #19 ”Am I really the only one alive? sigh I must vote quite soon and there's a pitiful amount of comments to conclude anything of. Must I really go with my feeble suspicion of CoD?” Gets no backup so far. #22 Agrees with Anguirel that CoD might have meant his post ”defending” Durelin as a joke, but still votes him (CoD). Tells that the vote had bad reasoning, but day one… Leaves Day2 #78 Says that Ang and Rikea would have been a helf being alive. Notices Boromir’s wolfish appology. Sees CoD quite innocent because of his calmness. Says about keeping an eye on Valier. #91 Doesn’t find Durelin particulary suspicious. Doesn’t like Gurthang’s vote for Durelin (wrong again). Doesn’t like Diamond’s suspicion of Nogrod (here I somewhat find reason in Diamond’s actions) because Rikae died (but it’s true that this doesn’t have much sense). #92 ”About Gurthang: I got my "bad feeling" pinned: it's that he always votes early when the vote is safe and then says "I might be back" or as today, comes back. I don't like this kind of behaviour at all. It gives him a "reason" to slip away from the discussion whenever he wants since he's already voted.” I don’t like suspicion for such things, I for one never try to ”escape conversations”, you might believe this when you find out that I am innocent. So, bad reasoning! #106 I don’t like her suspicion on Boromir, it’s wolfish. ”He is somewhat suspicions but really not too suspisious and not worth noticing”, well you know what I mean. Others make more or less sense to me. #107 Votes Gurthang, ok, I admit that Gurthang was really suspicios to me too when I read day2 during the next night. I don’t fully like her reasoning (about escaping conversations), but Gurthang did say things of little importance now and then. Keeps an eye on CoD. Day3 #138 This speaks of Lommy’s innocense, she mentiones the reason Rune was lynched and probably got it right. #155 Defends herself. Seems like she is talking sense, but to post only a self-defence is something strange from Lommy. #161 Jokes about Nogrod and Boromir being the remaining wolves, it seems that she doesn’t suspect either of them too much here, Boromir somewhat, but not too straightforward. #164 Sense I see. But Lommy is such a great WW player that I’d probably see sense in everything even a wolf-Lommy would write. What does this by the way mean: ”So, if I was to guess who the remaining wolves are, I'd say Naria, Boro and CoD or Volo, but I'm far from assured.” You know the last wolf? Yourself maybe? Well, anyway: from her suspicious list everybody is innocent as I see it, so it’s either Valier, Farael or Lommy herself that you have to go after. #165 Clears her thoughts, nothing interesting. #171 Her wits tell her to vote Naria and her guts tell her not to vote Naria… hmm. Comments my longest post so far (the Nogrod accusing angstfull post, that now is proved as rubbish). #175 Votes Nariawolf, speaks for Lommy’s innocense, but anything can happen. Day4 #200 Still suspects CoD (and me). Well, tomorrow she’ll either be happy or will find that she made a mistake. Desides to check everybody’s relations with Boromir and Naria (I am suspicious with that, and so is Valier). #203 Votes known wolf Boromir #205 No, I don’t agree with her about CoD… I might be wrong, but I hope I’m not. She makes me look like I eat a shaman’s breakfast each day, with lots of mushrooms. (HEY, I’M LYNCHED ) Day5 #238 What else . (She won’t able to poison your minds on day6, so be happy, or then she’s just trying to escape conversation (nah, not really, I’m not sure if she’s a wolf)) #239 Just a post about CoD not writing anything in the morning like usually, doesn’t mean anything. Somehow her flooding makes her look either very nervous (just like me being lynched right now…), or then she’s happy of high possibilities of winning as a wolf (umm… that’s also being nervous). But she wrote this while writing the Boromir and Naria relationship post. #240 Her analysis of Boromir’s and Naria’s relations with other players. Speaks well for her innocense, she wouldn’t waste too much time on things like this being wolf, I think… #241 At last finds CoD innocent… Thinks of Farael as an innocent also (those two I tend to agree with). Thinks that either me or Valier is guilty, me more than Valier. (Valier being better staying innocent as a wolf than me as an ordo. Hey, I would really like to learn writing well!) #242 (guess who? Valier? No… Nogrod? No… Well who then? Lommy! You should get the additional title of ”spammer wolf”) Complains about others being absent, I’d also complain (even if I were absent myself). Votes me and starts a fatal bandwagon. Ok, I do seem more suspicious than Valier… #243 (oh, another one… didn’t remember this one coming. Got seven bullets in your six shooter, that’s a skill!) and I posted straight after that… So: Some things just scream wolf, but most is so reasonable, that I see Valier far more wolf than the others. It feels like she was the first to suspect Naria and Boromir, but her gut told her not to vote them too swiftly... That seems rather wolfish, but she then voted them in the end. #164 does seem strange with "the remaining wolves" all wolves still being around and well. Otherwise Lommy has been talking lots of sense and has helped the village so far. If she's a wolf and wins, I won't be too sad for you who lose next turn, she is a great wolf if she is one. But, I find ++Valier scarier, I haven't gone through her posts as carefully, but I'd probably vote for her tomorrow if I were alive. Please look through her posts! Yours sincerely, Volo the Ordo. PS: CoD will get my phones. Farael will get my balrog-suit. Give my weapons to charity. __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page

11-17-2006, 03:59 PM	#8
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	I'm extremely unsettled here... Volo has been very through today, and I just have this weird feeling... sadly, this is the last minute of the day, and there is no time to do any other thing than lynch him. Well, Volo if you are an ordo, my apologies... if not, rott in the void!!! __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

11-17-2006, 01:59 PM	#1
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	It does discourage you writing summaries knowing that you'll be lynched when at the same time you could do something moderately fun... I'll probably finish this Lommy-summary and then just go. (Just make sure that when you kill me you make it as cruelly as possible.) Who wants to join me with my last supper? __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page

11-17-2006, 02:11 PM	#2
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	Sorry for flooding, but I really suggest Nogrod to use his time to think of other probabilities if (strangely ) you find that the last wolf isn't me. __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page

11-17-2006, 03:05 PM	#6
CaptainofDespair Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 413	Oh, don't worry, Volo! I'll be sure to go through Valier quite thoroughly!

11-17-2006, 03:58 PM	#7
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	If Volo turns out to be innocent, please note the following. Farael I haven't been able to look so closely. My judgement on him being innocent rests mainly on Boromir being so aggressively on him all the time. CoD I think innocent mainly bacause of the opposite reasons: Boro's over-abundant trust seems just too much for a wolf-on-wolf -thing (and if it is one, it sure merits to conquer!). My case on his "seer-hint"-thing does not seem so good at this state of the game. With Valier you should look at least the points I made in my last post where I though she posed a problem to me. There seems to be some actually suspicious things but also some innocentish ones. She could draw the innocentish ones even as a wolf but might also make suspicious moves being innocent. And Lommy then. I'm inclined to believe her innocent, but... She will really be a master wolf if she is one. She was possibly a bit too confident with Naria (Valier noted this also), but if she just sticked with the most reasonable explanation, it could also make sense. Were she a wolf, it would really be one of the most daring and complicated plots made up by her and Boro ever seen in WW-history. But as I said, we easily interpret wolves too complicatedly. But do not pass the option as non-existing either. Watch closely the reactions of this evening (like CoD's last one...). And also who did not react, who carefully backed off and the likes. Good luck fellows! Sorry I couldn't be of more help... Bring the beast down: it's one of three to all of you and only one mudding the waters... You can do it! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-17-2006, 04:02 PM	#9
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Creepy quiet day, but it's over now. Volo's dead, and innocent. Wolf, please include Folwren in your kill choice tonight. I feel terrible about it, but no narrations are going to get written until after we move. Folwren will be handling the opening and closing of the next day for me, bless her! __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!