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Nogrod · 11-19-2006, 01:59 PM

Where are you guys?

It makes no sense for me to fill this thread now! If I say something to defend the wolf it will use it against the innocent's accusations and if I say something to suspect the innocent the wolf will use it to attack that one...

I just say I'm not at all ready to vote yet as it could go anyway just now.

So talk, please. Give points and suspicions.

I'll be back about an hour before the deadline as I have some work to do (RL). Hopefully we'll get to see and say something by then.

Valier · 11-19-2006, 02:10 PM

Sorry I've had stuff to do around my house. I'm glad you have decided to share some points CoD and you've brought up some good ones. Both Farael and CoD could have killed Lommy, because she suspect both little and this would point the blame in different directions. Boromir and Farael's interaction during the game could just be a scheme the wolves came up with to have Naria die and both remaining wolves argue and banter to make sure that at least one would survive till the end. I wouldn't put it past them, both Boromir and Farael have had experience being bad as well as Naria.

I keep worrying that Farael may just come back right before the deadline and mess with the voting to win (he still has a retraction and can we take his word that he won't be back?...kinda convenient isn't it? he can save himself if he really needs to in the end if we don't do something.) I think we three need to come together and make a unanomous vote and kill the last remaining wolf. If we all vote for Farael, he will have no chance of being able to switch the vote at the end to his favor. What do you guys think? I will be here for the last hour of the day, and I hope you both will be here too so we can come to a decision.

CaptainofDespair · 11-19-2006, 02:53 PM

We only get one retraction, right? Which means Farael used his. Though, it could throw kinks in any strategy, if his retraction did not count (as he posted after the deadline both times).

Does anyone have a clue towards how that one works?

Valier · 11-19-2006, 02:57 PM

I am pretty sure we are allowed one retraction per day and Farael voted for you CoD so he can still change his vote once today before the deadline. He can still come on moments before and change his vote.

Nogrod · 11-19-2006, 03:11 PM

I'm back and have given this some thought. My main suspicion at the moment seems to be Farael too, but let's not be hasty - if you both have a possibility to stay this last hour. Valier, your fear will not come true. Even if Farael comes back we can still vote him over 3-1.

But we will have to think of it.

I will post my suspicions of Farel and also why I think either of you could be wolves and why not. I try to be fast and short.
(Me? Fast and short?

)

Make your points if you have any. We have not much time. It would be easy to lynch Farael now as he's not with us so do not let the easiness of it overcome your judgement!

Nogrod · 11-19-2006, 03:21 PM

Farael has a terrible voting record and has not been around too much. But it's tough luck if someone with lots of RL going on was picked as a wolf. I'm afraid we can't use it against him anyhow as that would be bad sportsmanship. For these games to be possible we just have to take any claims towards RL troubles at face value. And if someone cheats with them let it lessen the glory they feel for their winnings.

But I'm growing less and less convinced about the row between Farael and Boromir to speak for Farael's innocence. We should also remeber that Boro's votes for Farael were never dangerous ones (they didn't actually threaten him with lynching), so they might be safeties too? And surely if one died the other would look good, as many of us (f.ex. myself and Lommy) have thought so far.

Also it's not impossible that Farael could be the one who due to inattendance to what was happening in the game (due to RL-rush) never noticed Durelin's post where I was declared innocent - or any other mentioning of it in the couple of posts that did say it aloud. So that could explain the inexplicable confusion Lommy's death brought forwards? Otherwise it's an insane decision by the wolf - as Lommy had openly said that she could only drop in one time the whole day toDay (wouldn't that have been the easisest villager for the wolf to cope?)!

Nogrod · 11-19-2006, 03:32 PM

Then the points on you, why I think you two might be innocents.

CoD I could come up with a host of reasons to vote.
- Boro's friendship so overdone? Why would he do it if not to play just smartly - which he can do! I'm still havin problems to believe it and that's just why I suspect it.
- Your systematic voting pattern (vote for the one that suspected you) defies analysis and with its safety calls for suspicion.
- Your appearance toDay was more than convenient. After saying you might drop in during the whole Day you effectually appeared only after something of note to you had happened - and your reason for voting for Valier was not to get rid of the wolf but to save your own neck...

But CoD's relation with Naria talks better of him.
- Your votes first brought her level with another one and the other time put her on the lead.
- Naria's random vote for you - after you had gained a lot of suspicion the Day before speaks of you the most highly!

Valier to follow...

CaptainofDespair · 11-19-2006, 03:39 PM

Yes, he does have a terrible voting record. The only consistent votes he has had are against Boromir and myself, and those never amounted to much. Rather odd, I think.

At this point, I am inclined to think Farael may be our last wolf. I will hold off on voting however. I'd like to see if we'll have a consensus first.

11-19-2006, 01:59 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Where are you guys? It makes no sense for me to fill this thread now! If I say something to defend the wolf it will use it against the innocent's accusations and if I say something to suspect the innocent the wolf will use it to attack that one... I just say I'm not at all ready to vote yet as it could go anyway just now. So talk, please. Give points and suspicions. I'll be back about an hour before the deadline as I have some work to do (RL). Hopefully we'll get to see and say something by then. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-19-2006, 02:10 PM	#2
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	Sorry I've had stuff to do around my house. I'm glad you have decided to share some points CoD and you've brought up some good ones. Both Farael and CoD could have killed Lommy, because she suspect both little and this would point the blame in different directions. Boromir and Farael's interaction during the game could just be a scheme the wolves came up with to have Naria die and both remaining wolves argue and banter to make sure that at least one would survive till the end. I wouldn't put it past them, both Boromir and Farael have had experience being bad as well as Naria. I keep worrying that Farael may just come back right before the deadline and mess with the voting to win (he still has a retraction and can we take his word that he won't be back?...kinda convenient isn't it? he can save himself if he really needs to in the end if we don't do something.) I think we three need to come together and make a unanomous vote and kill the last remaining wolf. If we all vote for Farael, he will have no chance of being able to switch the vote at the end to his favor. What do you guys think? I will be here for the last hour of the day, and I hope you both will be here too so we can come to a decision. __________________ grand return?........

11-19-2006, 02:57 PM	#4
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	I am pretty sure we are allowed one retraction per day and Farael voted for you CoD so he can still change his vote once today before the deadline. He can still come on moments before and change his vote. __________________ grand return?........

11-19-2006, 03:11 PM	#5
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I'm back and have given this some thought. My main suspicion at the moment seems to be Farael too, but let's not be hasty - if you both have a possibility to stay this last hour. Valier, your fear will not come true. Even if Farael comes back we can still vote him over 3-1. But we will have to think of it. I will post my suspicions of Farel and also why I think either of you could be wolves and why not. I try to be fast and short. (Me? Fast and short? ) Make your points if you have any. We have not much time. It would be easy to lynch Farael now as he's not with us so do not let the easiness of it overcome your judgement! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-19-2006, 03:21 PM	#6
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Farael has a terrible voting record and has not been around too much. But it's tough luck if someone with lots of RL going on was picked as a wolf. I'm afraid we can't use it against him anyhow as that would be bad sportsmanship. For these games to be possible we just have to take any claims towards RL troubles at face value. And if someone cheats with them let it lessen the glory they feel for their winnings. But I'm growing less and less convinced about the row between Farael and Boromir to speak for Farael's innocence. We should also remeber that Boro's votes for Farael were never dangerous ones (they didn't actually threaten him with lynching), so they might be safeties too? And surely if one died the other would look good, as many of us (f.ex. myself and Lommy) have thought so far. Also it's not impossible that Farael could be the one who due to inattendance to what was happening in the game (due to RL-rush) never noticed Durelin's post where I was declared innocent - or any other mentioning of it in the couple of posts that did say it aloud. So that could explain the inexplicable confusion Lommy's death brought forwards? Otherwise it's an insane decision by the wolf - as Lommy had openly said that she could only drop in one time the whole day toDay (wouldn't that have been the easisest villager for the wolf to cope?)! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-19-2006, 02:53 PM	#3
CaptainofDespair Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 413	We only get one retraction, right? Which means Farael used his. Though, it could throw kinks in any strategy, if his retraction did not count (as he posted after the deadline both times). Does anyone have a clue towards how that one works?

11-19-2006, 03:32 PM	#7
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Then the points on you, why I think you two might be innocents. CoD I could come up with a host of reasons to vote. - Boro's friendship so overdone? Why would he do it if not to play just smartly - which he can do! I'm still havin problems to believe it and that's just why I suspect it. - Your systematic voting pattern (vote for the one that suspected you) defies analysis and with its safety calls for suspicion. - Your appearance toDay was more than convenient. After saying you might drop in during the whole Day you effectually appeared only after something of note to you had happened - and your reason for voting for Valier was not to get rid of the wolf but to save your own neck... But CoD's relation with Naria talks better of him. - Your votes first brought her level with another one and the other time put her on the lead. - Naria's random vote for you - after you had gained a lot of suspicion the Day before speaks of you the most highly! Valier to follow... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-19-2006, 03:39 PM	#8
CaptainofDespair Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 413	Yes, he does have a terrible voting record. The only consistent votes he has had are against Boromir and myself, and those never amounted to much. Rather odd, I think. At this point, I am inclined to think Farael may be our last wolf. I will hold off on voting however. I'd like to see if we'll have a consensus first.