Gothmog as Pat - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Bêthberry · 11-21-2006, 08:19 PM

Who is Pat? or should that be what?

mormegil · 11-21-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Who is Pat? or should that be what?

Sorry, it's an old skit from Saturday Night Live. Pat was of unknown gender and the comedy was he/she was put in comical situations relating to guessing gender but nobody ever knew. I thought it rather funny.

Bêthberry · 11-21-2006, 08:53 PM

meh, after the fiasco of how Robin Duke and Tony Rosato were handled, it was all downhill from there.

oh but now what Gothmog lines come to mind . . .

Raynor · 11-22-2006, 01:30 PM

Hammond and Scull note in the LotR Reader's Companion, on page 566, that Gothmog is more likely the second in command to the witch-king, who is sometimes called Morgul-lord. Also, in a rejected version of the battle of the Pellenor Fields, found in HoME VIII, it is stated that all the nazgul fled after their leader was killed (but in LotR, Gothmog brings new troops out of Osgiliath). I believe that he was an orc of some sort; in Myths Transformed, the Men-orcs are said to be "large and cunning", therefore having the "qualities" necessary for leadership.

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11-21-2006, 08:19 PM	#1
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	Who is Pat? or should that be what? __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

11-21-2006, 08:53 PM	#3
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	meh, after the fiasco of how Robin Duke and Tony Rosato were handled, it was all downhill from there. oh but now what Gothmog lines come to mind . . . __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

11-22-2006, 01:30 PM	#4
Raynor Eagle of the Star Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sarmisegethuza Posts: 1,058	Hammond and Scull note in the LotR Reader's Companion, on page 566, that Gothmog is more likely the second in command to the witch-king, who is sometimes called Morgul-lord. Also, in a rejected version of the battle of the Pellenor Fields, found in HoME VIII, it is stated that all the nazgul fled after their leader was killed (but in LotR, Gothmog brings new troops out of Osgiliath). I believe that he was an orc of some sort; in Myths Transformed, the Men-orcs are said to be "large and cunning", therefore having the "qualities" necessary for leadership. __________________ "May the wicked become good. May the good obtain peace. May the peaceful be freed from bonds. May the freed set others free."