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Tyler · 11-25-2002, 05:16 PM

Oh no thay are calling me a geek. I could care less what some dumb jock or cool guys thinks of me. Its just to bad that thay cant be them selves. Caues hey what would their friends think of them? Im sure thay would like the book if thay read it. I dont know how many people i know who dont like to read but loved the books. So if i like to read LOTR call me a geek. Your comment means nothing to me due to your ignorance.

Beren87 · 06-23-2004, 03:42 AM

Reminds me of this discussion Rimbaud started a while back. The article at the top from the guardian is excellent, and a good read.

Estelyn Telcontar · 06-23-2004, 06:28 AM

Attentive readers will have noticed that the author of the above article speaks only of male geeks. We are left to conjecture on the existence of females of the species. However, if there were no females, how would geeks (some sources also refer to nerds, but I am not sure whether those are a different species or just another name for the same) multiply? Does Saurgates breed or spawn them unnaturally? To even imagine the act of geek procreation is gross, but can even one so mighty as he bring his creatures to life, or does he merely twist those already created to serve him?

If there are females, what do you suppose they’re like? Are they smaller than the males and kept at home to rear the young, as they are not useful for the warfare against their foes? Or, like dwarf females, are they so similar to the males that those of other races cannot differentiate between them?

So many questions, so few answers! I have great hopes that the new volume XIV of HoME, The Peoples of Modern Middle-earth, will shed some light on this topic. Christopher Tolkien has held this information back long enough – eager fans want to know!

tar-ancalime · 06-23-2004, 09:41 AM

The Matthew Sakey article seems to be directed at non-geeks who may want to date or live with geeks. This implies that geeks can and do procreate with non-geeks, thus creating a whole population of half-geeks. Could it be that these half-geeks may then choose freely which half of their heritage to embrace?

But to answer Estelyn's question directly, there are certainly female geeks. It is unfortunate that here as in so many other instances, their contributions to geekdom throughout history have been overshadowed or simply ignored in favor of the male of the species. It is high time their voices were heard.

As far back as the Middle Ages, female geeks such as Beatrix the Codex-laden were at the forefront of advancement of geek culture. Beatrix herself is well known to have created the first fantasy-related action figure, a small wooden model of a dragon with working arms and legs, which she carved and painted herself.

Female geeks of today, it is time to speak out. We have been hidden too long.

Hama Of The Riddermark · 06-23-2004, 10:29 AM

To really understand what 'GEEK' means you have to have watched an extract from a while back on the Conan O'Brian show...It was a few days after Attack of the Clones came out...

That short ten minutes of film had me laughing for about a week...

Sirithheruwen · 06-23-2004, 12:22 PM

I am not a geek.
Nor am I a nerd.
Nor am I a jock.
Nor am I a goth.

I am an original...me and me alone. I detest stereotypes as no one person is exactly the same as any other person. Unless they try to act like another person so they can be accepted. Those people are stupid twits. No offence.

Saraphim · 06-23-2004, 01:19 PM

One day, everyone will stop using small words to describe a large amount of people. Everyone will be accepted for thier differences, and happiness will ensue.

But until that day, I remain, an Uber-Geek!

11-25-2002, 05:16 PM	#1
Tyler Animated Skeleton Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 37	Oh no thay are calling me a geek. I could care less what some dumb jock or cool guys thinks of me. Its just to bad that thay cant be them selves. Caues hey what would their friends think of them? Im sure thay would like the book if thay read it. I dont know how many people i know who dont like to read but loved the books. So if i like to read LOTR call me a geek. Your comment means nothing to me due to your ignorance. __________________ Not all who wander are lost. -Tolkien

06-23-2004, 06:28 AM	#3
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Are there she geeks? Attentive readers will have noticed that the author of the above article speaks only of male geeks. We are left to conjecture on the existence of females of the species. However, if there were no females, how would geeks (some sources also refer to nerds, but I am not sure whether those are a different species or just another name for the same) multiply? Does Saurgates breed or spawn them unnaturally? To even imagine the act of geek procreation is gross, but can even one so mighty as he bring his creatures to life, or does he merely twist those already created to serve him? If there are females, what do you suppose they’re like? Are they smaller than the males and kept at home to rear the young, as they are not useful for the warfare against their foes? Or, like dwarf females, are they so similar to the males that those of other races cannot differentiate between them? So many questions, so few answers! I have great hopes that the new volume XIV of HoME, The Peoples of Modern Middle-earth, will shed some light on this topic. Christopher Tolkien has held this information back long enough – eager fans want to know! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

06-23-2004, 09:41 AM	#4
tar-ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: abaft the beam Posts: 303	the Choice of the half-geeks The Matthew Sakey article seems to be directed at non-geeks who may want to date or live with geeks. This implies that geeks can and do procreate with non-geeks, thus creating a whole population of half-geeks. Could it be that these half-geeks may then choose freely which half of their heritage to embrace? But to answer Estelyn's question directly, there are certainly female geeks. It is unfortunate that here as in so many other instances, their contributions to geekdom throughout history have been overshadowed or simply ignored in favor of the male of the species. It is high time their voices were heard. As far back as the Middle Ages, female geeks such as Beatrix the Codex-laden were at the forefront of advancement of geek culture. Beatrix herself is well known to have created the first fantasy-related action figure, a small wooden model of a dragon with working arms and legs, which she carved and painted herself. Female geeks of today, it is time to speak out. We have been hidden too long. __________________ Having fun wolfing it to the bitter end, I see, gaur-ancalime (lmp, ww13)

06-23-2004, 12:22 PM	#6
Sirithheruwen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wind's Road Posts: 467	I am not a geek. Nor am I a nerd. Nor am I a jock. Nor am I a goth. I am an original...me and me alone. I detest stereotypes as no one person is exactly the same as any other person. Unless they try to act like another person so they can be accepted. Those people are stupid twits. No offence. __________________ "My name is Mallard, but you can call me Duck." ~Random Saying, compliments of Sirith and her best friend, concerning a book.

06-23-2004, 01:19 PM	#7
Saraphim Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The other side of freezing. Posts: 404	Proud Nerd One day, everyone will stop using small words to describe a large amount of people. Everyone will be accepted for thier differences, and happiness will ensue. But until that day, I remain, an Uber-Geek! __________________ I drink Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters! ~ Always remember: pillage BEFORE you burn.

06-23-2004, 03:42 AM	#2
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Reminds me of this discussion Rimbaud started a while back. The article at the top from the guardian is excellent, and a good read.

06-23-2004, 10:29 AM	#5
Hama Of The Riddermark Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 282	To really understand what 'GEEK' means you have to have watched an extract from a while back on the Conan O'Brian show...It was a few days after Attack of the Clones came out... That short ten minutes of film had me laughing for about a week...