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alatar · 01-11-2007, 10:23 AM

It's taken some time, but I think that I've finally put my finger on what irks me about Peter Jackson's Army of the Dead. In the film, the other warriors, after the AotD arrive, are completely unnecessary. Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and the Rohirrim could have all sat down behind the slime and had tea (made from athelas, of course) and sang Kumbaya.

They become superfluous. The glory at the end of the day should all go to the King of the Dead and his hordes, but he and they are dismissed, and so our momentary heroes are sent packing in the film.

And, yes, I know that Aragorn 'braved' the passage/Path of the Dead to enlist this army, but from what I can see on the film, as noted, it's his shiny sword and nothing else that gets the slime to come out and play.

Elladan and Elrohir · 01-11-2007, 03:21 PM

Well, and I think you've hit the nail on the head there, alatar. The "heroes" do become perfectly pointless as the Dead rampage. Perhaps PJ could have made the Dead a bit smaller (as an army, I mean) and more like the Nazgul -- primarily wielding terror rather than physical power. Then they could have run off a section of Sauron's forces, leaving the main force still to deal with, thus calling for the continued heroics of Rohirrim, Aragorn, pretty elf-boy and belching dwarf, etc.

Sir Kohran · 04-15-2007, 10:21 AM

I think that's a good point to raise, alatar - and perfectly true. However, having just seen the battle again (beats 300 any day

), despite the invincible Dead forces, the remaining Orcs and Haradrim were still fighting and killing the Rohirrim and also inside the city, so it was important to kill all of the enemy forces as quickly as possible to minimize the damage, so the trio were fighting to increase the speed at which the Orcs were wiped out.

Also, they're warriors and it wouldn't look very honourable if they sat at the back whilst the slime did all the work.

01-11-2007, 10:23 AM	#1
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	It's taken some time, but I think that I've finally put my finger on what irks me about Peter Jackson's Army of the Dead. In the film, the other warriors, after the AotD arrive, are completely unnecessary. Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and the Rohirrim could have all sat down behind the slime and had tea (made from athelas, of course) and sang Kumbaya. They become superfluous. The glory at the end of the day should all go to the King of the Dead and his hordes, but he and they are dismissed, and so our momentary heroes are sent packing in the film. And, yes, I know that Aragorn 'braved' the passage/Path of the Dead to enlist this army, but from what I can see on the film, as noted, it's his shiny sword and nothing else that gets the slime to come out and play. __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.

01-11-2007, 03:21 PM	#2
Elladan and Elrohir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 332	Well, and I think you've hit the nail on the head there, alatar. The "heroes" do become perfectly pointless as the Dead rampage. Perhaps PJ could have made the Dead a bit smaller (as an army, I mean) and more like the Nazgul -- primarily wielding terror rather than physical power. Then they could have run off a section of Sauron's forces, leaving the main force still to deal with, thus calling for the continued heroics of Rohirrim, Aragorn, pretty elf-boy and belching dwarf, etc. __________________ "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved. All I did was give your uncle a little nudge out of the door." THE HOBBIT - IT'S COMING

04-15-2007, 10:21 AM	#3
Sir Kohran Wight Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England, UK Posts: 178	I think that's a good point to raise, alatar - and perfectly true. However, having just seen the battle again (beats 300 any day ), despite the invincible Dead forces, the remaining Orcs and Haradrim were still fighting and killing the Rohirrim and also inside the city, so it was important to kill all of the enemy forces as quickly as possible to minimize the damage, so the trio were fighting to increase the speed at which the Orcs were wiped out. Also, they're warriors and it wouldn't look very honourable if they sat at the back whilst the slime did all the work. __________________ 'Dangerous!' cried Gandalf. 'And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord.'