WW XXIIX - Queer Lodgings

[Nogrod]

Even though I don't know anything about Nilp and his situation, I would side him with this. One can't blame someone from not "flood-posting" in a place where a 24-hour net-access is not self-evident.

It's always hard for us others to judge someone in a WW-game who posts little and scarcely, but with Nilp I would be much more understanding than with people in places where I know it's not a question of the possibility of access...

In-game we can banter about anything there is one can come up with, but outside it, we should symphatise each other and wish each other well - and surely draw back from any claims we have presented in-game...

I mean Nilp played beautifully. Not playing with the quantity, but to my knowledge, adding to the quality much more than normally. And just because of that, you innocents - myself included - should have lynched him!

[The Saucepan Man]

Hehe. This game proved two of my longstanding Werewolf beliefs. The first is the one about loudmouths always turning on each other.

The second, one which more often than not holds true, is that the ones whose posts scream "I am a Wolf!" at you (in this game, Eomer, Kitanna and Anguirel) are not the ones that you should be worrying about.

Generally, Wolves are the most adept at acting the least Wolfish.

[Volo]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

The second, one which more often than not holds true, is that the ones whose posts scream "I am a Wolf!" at you (in this game, Eomer, Kitanna and Anguirel) are not the ones that you should be worrying about.

Oh, there will be a choir howling "Wolf" in the next game...

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by me, about Nilp

So if he's a wolf he maybe deserves to win and be lynched in the first day in all the next games.

Indeed.

That was a lovely game, kudos to everyone, especially Moddwen and the wolves (and Durelin too). I must say I haven't been this sure and wrong about the wolves ever in ww except my few first games! I still can't believe Ang's innocent, though I must say his last day was perfectly innocentish.

Originally Posted by SPM

As for you loudmouth innocents - you only have yourselves to blame - as did my fellow innocents and I in a similar situation ...

Originally Posted by SPM

Hehe. This game proved two of my longstanding Werewolf beliefs. The first is the one about loudmouths always turning on each other.

It's so easy for you to say since you weren't in the game!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I hardly think it's fair to criticise Nilp for being likeable.

Anyway, I was tempted to bring up SPM's point myself. In every single game I play in, people always just 'feel' as if there's something wrong with me. I'm like a Ringwraith who is sometimes good.

Kitanna is indeed similar. I could hardly believe how she was being jumped on at the start.

Anguirel? I can never bring myself to entertain the notion of him being evil because he's so entertaining, which apparently makes other people more suspicious of him. I can't understand it. Anyway, thanks for the vote of confidence before I died, sir. It was noted.

It's just funny how much this game is based on feelings. Totally agree with Rune. If I find some player is not getting to the point then I often skim-read his/her posts. Though I'm aware that some people feel totally unsatisfied if they don't have a great, long post to chew over.

Ah, the art of dealing with other people! We're all so annoying, ain't we?

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Congrats Nilp, Volo and Holby!!

Originally Posted by Farael

since I had no clue whom to protect I was going to protect my friend... Spawn.

Awh, thanks, but then you would've died right away and that wouldn't have been such a much better option either.

I'm sorry for Naria, though, who had the misfortune of being paired with me. We didn't have time to chat much, but she was right about the innocence of many of you (along with Eomer's... Sorry, sir. ).

Anyway, great modding, Oddwen. The themesong was brilliant.

[Anguirel]

Nilp...I am quite lost in admiration...

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Lommy

It's so easy for you to say since you weren't in the game!

It's easy to say because, as a loudmouth myself, I speak from bitter experience.

I have to say that all this talk of prior reputations and playing and posting styles leaves me rather cold. When you play Werewolf, you have to take your fellow players as you find them. It's not meant to be easy. If the Wolf is someone who plays in such a way as to avoid suspicion, then he or she cannot be criticised for doing so. Surely that is the point of being a Wolf. It is up to the innocents to discover the Wolf and, where necessary, challenge preconceptions or seemingly innocent behaviour in order to do so.

Similarly, if you are playing with those whose posting styles differs from your own, then you have to accept that and get on with it. Everyone has a different manner of playing - quiet, medium, loud, provocative, mysterious, analytical, intuitive, and so on. It would be rather dull if it were any different. No one is under any obligation to post in a particular way - subject to the mod's game rules and the forum gudielines, people can play the way that suits them best in whatever role they have been allocated.

Prior reputations can work both ways. It seems to me, for example, that Eomer is always suspected due to his fine work as a Wolf in the past. Nilp has been lynched early on in the past due to his suicidal Day 1 behaviour. I myself get incredibly frustrated whenever I hear the refrain: "If Saucepan is still alive by Day 3, then I will be looking closely at him". But I accept it as an inevitable part of the game. It is something that experienced players have to put up with, and I see no problem with people trying to redress the balance and use prior reputation to their advantage. What is fair game against them is fair game in their favour, to my mind.

Originally Posted by Eomer

Ah, the art of dealing with other people! We're all so annoying, ain't we?

Yes, and it ain't gonna change. Everyone's different and has a different approach to the game. It's part and parcel of playing Werewolf. And for me, it's a large part of the fun of it.