WW XXIX Dor-en-Gaur

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I am very suprised about how sure you are that you have spottet two wolves already, Farael. . . Althought I can see how Volo is acting a bit strange, I do not see either of them to be very much more suspicouse than the rest of the people here. I guess you will write it down to your gut feeling.

I am not going to object to that kind of reasoning, after all I use it my self often. I still think it is odd how you are so sure. . .

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Volo

Not writen... Made up in her head.
I myself usually write a short in-character thing in the beggining of my first post, because I find it funny.
All I'm trying to say is that it's a terrible reason to lynch somebody.

Ok, then what about the OTHER reasons I mentioned? this is a really half-hearted defense... is she your wolf partner perhaps?

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

I am not going to object to that kind of reasoning, after all I use it my self often. I still think it is odd how you are so sure. . .

You don't know me so well, do you?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Farael

You don't know me so well, do you?

Probably not. . .I have seen you be very confident before, but seing it repeated does not make me understand it.

The same could be said about Gil's obcesion to confuse. . .

Anyways I have to leave very soon so I shall cast my vote now. . .and It will have to be for Mac. He just pushed my buttons and I do not have any good theories yet.

++Macalaure

Edit: Cross posted with Mac

[Macalaure]

So much for the offering friendship theory of mine.

I'm moving Rune down on my suspicion list.

[Anguirel]

I don't actually think much weirdness is going on; rather a predictable soup of pettiness, defensiveness, and straw-grasping!

I still think Volo a mass of contradictions: a fellow who can, in the same post, posit the idea of voting for Boro and accuse me of defending him a lukewarm fashion is a pretty odd fish. Or wolf.

I think Farael and I differ on one important point. He is willing to jump on Lommy for posting "nonsense"; ironically she tends to be critical of "nonsense" herself, and has in turn voted for Durelin because of it. I really disagree with the concept of "nonsense". Maybe I'm being too merry, but isn't so-called nonsense pretty near to having fun? Which is what I'm in this lark for...

Something of a split is developing between those who believe in "trusting nobody" and those who believe in trusting where possible, led especially vocally by Farael. He claims that if someone has talked and acted manifestly sensibly, the odds are that they're friendly. Be careful. It was relying on "odds" like that that recently got me hammered by Nilp. I am for constant vigilance myself, I'm afraid.

I hope, though, that Mith isn't a wolf. She seems like a breath of fresh air and it would terribly annoying to have to help lynch her...

For now, I shall put my scruples about grudgebearing aside and vote

++VOLO

[Lalwendë]

Mac, I think Rune, along with Boro, Firefoot, Celuien and Gil-galad was just one of the early starters and so naturally fell into being suspected. I don't think that's fair - the only one of the early adopters I have a hunch about is Gil-galad. The rest, well, they 'look foul but feel fair' right now. No insult to your fizzogs intended by the way.

[Boromir88]

Lal

However I'm still wondering about this whole Gil-galad/Boro thing. Is it in fact one huge red herring set up by them? More analysis needed but like I say, I will trust my excellent gut feelings this time...

I wouldn't do this as a wolf. Accept it or don't, that's up to you, I can just tell you I am one of the easiest people to predict (just ask the phantom who knows my style so well I'm scared to be in a village with him). If I have something to hide (either wolf or a gifted) I'm more cautious and try not to attract suspicion. When I'm an ordinary I come out firing and it often gets me into trouble, but at least we get some action going that may be of great help in the days to come...even if it does end up getting my lynched early.

[Lalwendë]

Boro.... I understand where you're coming from. This is much better than the old "he says too much!" or "She is too quiet!" or even the "Why has he started early?" thing. I might be quite new to this lark but I'm not wholly green and I saw that happen in my first game and I've seen it here. I happen to think you are innocent (at least for now, you know how things can change in a suspicious village!) - if you were guilty then it would mean Anguirel and Gil-galad had been in cahoots to drag you into the sights of everyone and from what Anguirel says, I think he could be innocent right now; I certainly don't have enough evidence to convict him at present and happen to think he was going along with early hunches.

Votes so far:
mormegil -> Rune (Rune 1)
Gil-Galad -> Boro (Rune 1, Boro 1)
Roa_Aoife -> Gil (Rune 1, Boro 1, Gil 1)
Lommy -> Durelin (Rune 1, Boro 1, Gil 1, Durelin 1)
Firefoot -> Boro (Boro 2, Rune 1, Gil 1, Durelin 1)
Rikae -> Anguirel (Boro 2, Rune 1, Gil 1, Durelin 1, Ang 1)
Kath -> Boromir88 (Boro 3, Rune 1, Gil 1, Durelin 1, Ang 1)
Celuien -> Naria (Boro 3, Rune 1, Gil 1, Durelin 1, Ang 1, Naria 1)
Farael -> Lommy (Boro 3, Rune 1, Gil 1, Durelin 1, Ang 1, naria 1, Lommy 1)
Volo -> Durelin (Boro 3, Rune 1, Gil 1, Durelin 2, Ang 1, Naria 1, Lommy1)
Rune -> Mac (Boro 3, Rune 1, Gil 1, Durelin 2, Ang 1, Mac 1, Naria 1, Lommy 1)
Anguirel -> Volo (Boro 3, Rune 1, Gil 1, Durelin 2, Ang 1, Naria 1, Lommy 1, Mac 1, Volo1)

That's a wide spread. But there are trends I don't agree with.

I am now at the point of considering if my gut feelings are correct. I hate deciding things, I'm such a Libran.

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Nogrod, the Mysterious Stranger

But three of you have been armed with swords that make those beasts back away. And one of you possesses a golden dagger.

Note that one of the hidden roles isn't mentioned in all of the talk!

Originally Posted by Nogrod, the Storyteller

“This is a sword of the order of Thorondor. Even a Gaur will be afraid of it and pull back when seeing one. And a Gaur indeed has infected your village. It will now be your task to defend those of you who are innocent during the nights. Good luck to you villager and pick the ones you defend wisely!” That was the message the Eagles told the frightful villagers who hid inside their homes and waited for the worst. After leaving the swords in front of the doors the Eagles pulled up again, now already looking at the scent of the Gaur.

It doesn't tell the quantity of the swords, and is clearly says "protect", so we should assume that those are the Rangers. Probably no more than three.

Originally Posted by Nogrod, the Rulemaster

There are three werewolves to kill the villagers.
There are three rangers to defend the villagers.
There are three others with some specialities (which will be hinted at / revealed in the narrations).

Three others! And so far we know only about the "Golden Dagger", I bet the Golden Dagger is made for killing wolves, probably not like a Hunter.

Originally Posted by Nogrod, the Rulemaster

- Of those three undisclosed ones two would basically be on the side of the villagers and one on the side of the wolves. They could all benefit the cause they are fighting for but they could also harm their cause. The one being on the wolves' side would not be counted as a wolf but as a villager in the last Days tally, but would win along with the wolves if they win.

It can well be possible that there is a Hunter, a Soldier/Assassin (a person that may kill straight away, the Golden Dagger) and a Cobbler.
So far I see hints about only the Golden Dagger, the hints don't tell the role.

Originally Posted by Nogrod, the Rulemaster

- As long as there are three wolves they will have two kills / Night. As soon as one of them gets killed they will only have one kill / Night.

This would talk for the theory about an Alpha Wolf and two normal/weaker wolves (as the storywolf bit them only quickly). I think that the Alpha Wolf doesn't know the other wolves and the other way round.
The Alpha Wolf probably has some special ability.

Originally Posted by Nogrod, the Rulemaster

- The rangers will start not knowing the identities of each other. But due to certain circumstances they might learn each others identities and with good luck they might even earn the right to PM during the Days! (the last one would require some especially good luck or real cunning "teamplay" and daring by them)

I still think that the certain circumstances are the Rangers protecting the same person and when successfully they will get the right of PM.

I am doing this mostly for my own fun, as WW is just a game to enjoy.