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Thinlómien · 02-03-2007, 03:20 PM

Rikae, it's a bit too late. 2 minutes.

Rikae · 02-03-2007, 03:21 PM

One vote switched to Firefoot would do it.

Durelin · 02-03-2007, 03:21 PM

Ang - I'm starting to feel you might be right about Lommy. Maybe...very maybe. (Well, obviously, I guess...)

Nogrod · 02-03-2007, 03:22 PM

Voting is closed.

Lal's death will be up soon...

Boromir88 · 02-03-2007, 03:22 PM

If Lal's a ranger I'd hang myself.

No, because Lal is not a ranger, she's accepted or fate and is going down in style and having a bit of fun with it.

Anyone given a role is given a set of directions of that role, if there are any confusions they ask the Nogmod...Lal greatly misinterpretted the ranger role...this has already been pointed out by Mith.

Nogrod · 02-03-2007, 04:01 PM

After all the somewhat puzzling events of the Night the Villagers seemed all to have made up their minds at last. They had an idea how the things were and held on to their thoughts, letting no argument to twist their minds, Gorlim's Lighthearted Brother’s announcement possibly not included.

The stern looks of the villagers started concentrating on a few persons while a host of them were having none of the attention. Two suspects made it to the top. There was Eiliniel, Gorlim’s wife and the Homeless Wife. Some voted for one, some for the other. Surely, the Mathematician, the Weaver and the Moose Tamer got their fair share of suspicion but those never materialised as votes. In the end it was still quite clear who would have it this Day.

“It amazes me that Lal and Rikae are both persisting with conspiracy theories; one would think wolves would avoid such stubbornness to avoid implicating each other...perhaps one is a misguided innocent.” Gorlim’s Lighthearted Brother declared. “I shall stay my knife till after the lynch. And I'll vote to lynch Lalwendë”. With that he draw back.

“I find the most suspicious person today being Lalwendë and this is probably the most confident I've felt this entire time”, said the Serious Jester.

“I don't see me finding enough evidence to put anyone ahead of her so I will stick to my guns...” said the Frivolous Serving-Wench.

“Lal, what I would have expected from an innocent villager was not a "I'm the ranger"-thing, but a genuine panicky reaction along the lines of "you can't do this! I'm innocent!"” said the Ugly Shepherdess.

The Villagers were gathering around her.

“And why not, as inconsistency seems to be a factor shared by those both suspected and those not suspected right now. If I go in a new path I will be doomed and if I retread old ones I will be doomed.” She tried.

“Once a mob has decided then that's it.” She added, still trying to make a brave face.

“Que sera, sera, or however i’ts spelled. Maybe Je Ne Regrette Rien would be better?” she sighed as the villagers were up to her en masse.

She was felled down as the villagers went over her. She was not resisting too much.

The Serious Jester hoisted him up from the overall meddle.

The Homeless Waif gave her a blow with her walking stick.

The Serving-Wench strangled her with the kitchen towel as the Augur started sawing her right arm off with her small and dull knife.

The Ugly Little Shepherdess felt that that was too much and took the knife she beared with her to defend against the normal wolves in the pasture and sank it to her chest.

Lalwendë’s body yanked and started transforming. It started growing dark black hair and her overall posture changed into something really weird. Half-human – half-wolf she turned out to be. She didn’t struggle, she only transformed into something pretty odd and died.

And there she was, a half-hairy werewolf laying on the square a knife in her chest.

The villagers had at last made a right decision.

But Eiliniel! How could that be? What would Gorlim think of that?

Dead:
Volo – The Cryptic Lens Grinder – (ordo) hanged on Day1
Macalaure - Eiliniel's Witty Younger Brother Who's Always Right – (ordo) killed to his bed on Night2
Roa_Aoife - The Town Fletcher – (ordo) killed from behind while dozing off in the middle of her room on Night2
Celuien - The Innkeeper – (Ranger) throat slit on Night2
Morm – (ordo) beheaded on Day2
Eomer - A Beekeeper – (ordo) stinged to death by his own Bees on Night3
Gil-Galad - A Confused Philosopher – (ordo) sliced by the pendulum on Night3
Rune son of Bjarne - A Moonshiner – (Informer/cobbler) hacked to death with the golden dagger on Night3
Lalwendë - Eiliniel, A Retired Village Idiot – (beta-Wolf) – Mobbed and in the end stabbed to the chest on Day3

Alive:
Durelin - The Augur of the Village
Rikae - A Superstitious Mathematician
Thinlómien - An Ugly Little Shepherdess
Kath - A Weawer
Boromir88 - The Serious Jester
Mithalwen - A Frivolous Serving-Wench
Farael – A Moose Tamer
Anguirel - Gorlim's Lighthearted Brother, Anguirel the Merry
Firefoot - A Homeless Waif

Night4 is on.

Wolves PM me your kill, Rangers send me your protections. Others with something to say, PM as well...

Good Night!

Nogrod · 02-04-2007, 03:51 PM

The Hunter remade his list of the three he suspected. He had turned his mind around now. He was waiting for the wolves to come but they didn’t. He heard some noises though...

There were steps he heard from outside but it was silence after them.

Then there were the sounds of a struggle. He thought for it a while and then decided to stay out of it. He had to stay alive anyway...

....................
The Ranger that had decided to protect the self-declared Hunter had frozen at his front door.

Soon she heard the steps in the dark. They were coming straight to her.

Someone or someones were moving in the Night and she didn’t like the way it sounded. She was getting more alarmed, sensing everything she could. The Augur pulled her cloak away to hear better but at the same time another of the wolves was on her. She fell down and tried to fight back, drawing her sword as the wolf went on her. The other one nicely threw the sword away as it came to her throat. The sword disappeared at the moment.

“You villains! “, Durelin shouted as her last words. The wolf bit her to the throat and killed her with that. “But you didn’t get him...” she managed to mumble before she died.

The Ranger was dead.

The wolves looked at each other and smiled...

Dead:
Volo – The Cryptic Lens Grinder – (ordo) hanged on Day1
Macalaure - Eiliniel's Witty Younger Brother Who's Always Right – (ordo) killed to his bed on Night2
Roa_Aoife - The Town Fletcher – (ordo) killed from behind while dozing off in the middle of her room on Night2
Celuien - The Innkeeper – (Ranger) throat slit on Night2
Morm – (ordo) beheaded on Day2
Eomer - A Beekeeper – (ordo) stinged to death by his own Bees on Night3
Gil-Galad - A Confused Philosopher – (ordo) sliced by the pendulum on Night3
Rune son of Bjarne - A Moonshiner – (Informer/cobbler) hacked to death with the golden dagger on Night3
Lalwendë - Eiliniel, A Retired Village Idiot – (beta-Wolf) mobbed and in the end stabbed to the chest on Day3
Durelin - The Augur of the Village - (Ranger) overcome by the wolves while guarding another Villager on Night4

Alive:
Rikae - A Superstitious Mathematician
Thinlómien - An Ugly Little Shepherdess
Kath - A Weawer
Boromir88 - The Serious Jester
Mithalwen - A Frivolous Serving-Wench
Farael – A Moose Tamer
Anguirel - Gorlim's Lighthearted Brother, Anguirel the Merry
Firefoot - A Homeless Waif

Day4 has started. Please do your best...

8 persons: Two wolfs, three Gifteds, three ordinaries...

Boromir88 · 02-04-2007, 04:14 PM

I feel like momentum is swinging in our favor, but we still have a lot of work to do, so let's get to it:

After thinking and going through a lot I kind of wished Ang decided to go after Kath. There's something about Kath that looks terribly wolfish. Her defending than suspecting of Lalwende. What I mean is on Day 1 in post 58:

Quote:

Lal seems a little defensive about the whole quiet thing. Not entirely sure what to make of that. She jumped on Lommy a bit for saying she wanted to look out for the quiet ones as well as replying to Boro on the same lines. Might keep an eye on her. Her relative newbieness as well as having seen the arguments over the loud/quiet thing last game might explain the worry but I think it's still worth looking out for.

It's this 'defend-suspect' thing towards Lal that looks truly wolvish. It's kind of like 'ya Lal looks strange' but then she writes it off as Lal being relatively new and nothing to worry about. She defends and suspects Lal in the same paragraph and that looks like a the move of a wolf especially with us knowing Lal is now a wolf. This is not the only time Kath does this with Lal either;

Quote:

as she does the same in post 233:
Lal - I think is still finding her feet. She was overly defensive at first but she has been coming up with her own theories and has been quite decisive. If Lal was a wolf this would be her first time and I don't believe she would be so confident.

This just seems all to awkward, again using Lal's relative newbieness as a defense.

This looks strange because looking at Lal I definitely can't call her a newbie. Yesterday she knew what she was doing and she had this village worried, she went down in style. And as Lal herself says she's not so 'green' to this, and based on seeing her yesterday I would agree. So, Kath making Lal this defense that 'since she's newer she probably wouldn't be acting like this' looks like a wolf.

And again in poster 385:

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Lal I still believe to be innocent. I have not played with her before but she seems a well intentioned innocent who has become caught up in the game. Those of us who play often know the possibility of being suspected for anything and everything and watch our words, and I think it's that which has caused Lal trouble. I don't think it's anything wolvish.

She finally gets away from 'Lal is a newbie defense' and moves to Lal probably just got caught up in saying some wrong things.

Kath's defenses (and suspecting of) Lal definitely looks wolvish.

Rikae is a tough one to look at, before yesterday she had been doing the same thing as Kath when it came to defending Lal.

Quote:

Lalwendë - She seems the same as last game; since she's so new, I doubt she would seem that way if she were evil.

This is looking like one of those odd-looking defenses of somebody. It's the 'newbieness' defense again, but even stranger than Kath's. It just doesn't make sense...Since Lal looked the same in the last game we should not think she would be the same as a wolf because she's newer to the game?

I say Rikae is a tough one to figure out, because at the end yesterday she was really defending Lal to her death. And you have to wonder would a wolf do that. So now the question is what I asked towards the end of the day yesterday...would Rikae look more suspicious by jumping on with the rest of us against Lal? Or by ardently defending a wolf to her death? As I certainly don't agree with what Volo said about Rikae. She's been in enough of these to know what to do in situations and to know what looks wolvish and what doesn't.

I believe Firefoot and Mith to be innocent. I know Anguirel is innocent. I'll be back on Thinlo and Farael. These two I'm kind of struggling with...I can't imagine a wolf acting the way Farael is; luckily if Farael doesn't show up today my understanding is he's removed? And Thinlo in some instances looks very innocent, but in others just doesn't have a right feeling and I'll get to more about that when I return.

Boromir88 · 02-04-2007, 04:16 PM

Oh that quote of Rikae defending Lal is from Day 2, post 206 I believe.

Nogrod · 02-04-2007, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

luckily if Farael doesn't show up today my understanding is he's removed?

Yes, he will. But he needs only to post or vote to be in game toDay anyway...

Firefoot · 02-04-2007, 07:38 PM

I'm not really all that surprised that Durelin was the one killed - and it was all the more likely if the other ranger had protected her last night and if the wolves knew it from the cobbler. Leaving only one ranger left alive will just make it easier for them to keep on getting a kill at night. It's disappointing, but not surprising.

So who's left? I don't see any point in wasting effort trying to prove Ang and Boro aren't really gifted. That leaves:

Farael - I'm not sure about him - no definite suspicions or anything; I'm fine with letting this play out as to whether he posts today or not. I'm not inclined to concentrate on him, not just because of that but because there are others higher up on my suspicion list.

Rikae - Strange as it may sound, I'm actually not as sure of her as I thought I was. I keep going back and forth as to whether I think she's a wolf or not, which is why I was glad that the vote went to Lal and not to her yesterDay. My vote could still go to her pretty easily toDay.

Thinlómien - I hope I haven't been trusting her primarily because she's been trusting me. Some of the things she has said look very planned, in retrospect - the same thing that made me suspect Lal yesterDay. I'd like to believe she's innocent, but there are so few suspects left that I'm not ready to write anybody off.

Kath - Lal's being guilty has made the argument against her much more convincing. Her lynching might not be a bad idea.

Mithalwen - She's probably the least suspicious of these last four and the least likely to get my vote unless someone can make a convincing case against her.

Just as a heads-up: I won't be getting home until about a half-hour before the deadline, so I may cast an early vote tomorrow morning just to be safe. Hopefully though I'll have enough time to read through the rest of the Day's discussions so as to make a more informed vote... but you won't be hearing much from me toDay as far as analysis goes.

02-03-2007, 03:20 PM	#1
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Rikae, it's a bit too late. 2 minutes. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

02-03-2007, 03:22 PM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Voting is closed. Lal's death will be up soon... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

02-03-2007, 03:22 PM	#5
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	If Lal's a ranger I'd hang myself. No, because Lal is not a ranger, she's accepted or fate and is going down in style and having a bit of fun with it. Anyone given a role is given a set of directions of that role, if there are any confusions they ask the Nogmod...Lal greatly misinterpretted the ranger role...this has already been pointed out by Mith. __________________ Fenris Penguin

02-03-2007, 04:01 PM	#6
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	After all the somewhat puzzling events of the Night the Villagers seemed all to have made up their minds at last. They had an idea how the things were and held on to their thoughts, letting no argument to twist their minds, Gorlim's Lighthearted Brother’s announcement possibly not included. The stern looks of the villagers started concentrating on a few persons while a host of them were having none of the attention. Two suspects made it to the top. There was Eiliniel, Gorlim’s wife and the Homeless Wife. Some voted for one, some for the other. Surely, the Mathematician, the Weaver and the Moose Tamer got their fair share of suspicion but those never materialised as votes. In the end it was still quite clear who would have it this Day. “It amazes me that Lal and Rikae are both persisting with conspiracy theories; one would think wolves would avoid such stubbornness to avoid implicating each other...perhaps one is a misguided innocent.” Gorlim’s Lighthearted Brother declared. “I shall stay my knife till after the lynch. And I'll vote to lynch Lalwendë”. With that he draw back. “I find the most suspicious person today being Lalwendë and this is probably the most confident I've felt this entire time”, said the Serious Jester. “I don't see me finding enough evidence to put anyone ahead of her so I will stick to my guns...” said the Frivolous Serving-Wench. “Lal, what I would have expected from an innocent villager was not a "I'm the ranger"-thing, but a genuine panicky reaction along the lines of "you can't do this! I'm innocent!"” said the Ugly Shepherdess. The Villagers were gathering around her. “And why not, as inconsistency seems to be a factor shared by those both suspected and those not suspected right now. If I go in a new path I will be doomed and if I retread old ones I will be doomed.” She tried. “Once a mob has decided then that's it.” She added, still trying to make a brave face. “Que sera, sera, or however i’ts spelled. Maybe Je Ne Regrette Rien would be better?” she sighed as the villagers were up to her en masse. She was felled down as the villagers went over her. She was not resisting too much. The Serious Jester hoisted him up from the overall meddle. The Homeless Waif gave her a blow with her walking stick. The Serving-Wench strangled her with the kitchen towel as the Augur started sawing her right arm off with her small and dull knife. The Ugly Little Shepherdess felt that that was too much and took the knife she beared with her to defend against the normal wolves in the pasture and sank it to her chest. Lalwendë’s body yanked and started transforming. It started growing dark black hair and her overall posture changed into something really weird. Half-human – half-wolf she turned out to be. She didn’t struggle, she only transformed into something pretty odd and died. And there she was, a half-hairy werewolf laying on the square a knife in her chest. The villagers had at last made a right decision. But Eiliniel! How could that be? What would Gorlim think of that? Dead: Volo – The Cryptic Lens Grinder – (ordo) hanged on Day1 Macalaure - Eiliniel's Witty Younger Brother Who's Always Right – (ordo) killed to his bed on Night2 Roa_Aoife - The Town Fletcher – (ordo) killed from behind while dozing off in the middle of her room on Night2 Celuien - The Innkeeper – (Ranger) throat slit on Night2 Morm – (ordo) beheaded on Day2 Eomer - A Beekeeper – (ordo) stinged to death by his own Bees on Night3 Gil-Galad - A Confused Philosopher – (ordo) sliced by the pendulum on Night3 Rune son of Bjarne - A Moonshiner – (Informer/cobbler) hacked to death with the golden dagger on Night3 Lalwendë - Eiliniel, A Retired Village Idiot – (beta-Wolf) – Mobbed and in the end stabbed to the chest on Day3 Alive: Durelin - The Augur of the Village Rikae - A Superstitious Mathematician Thinlómien - An Ugly Little Shepherdess Kath - A Weawer Boromir88 - The Serious Jester Mithalwen - A Frivolous Serving-Wench Farael – A Moose Tamer Anguirel - Gorlim's Lighthearted Brother, Anguirel the Merry Firefoot - A Homeless Waif Night4 is on. Wolves PM me your kill, Rangers send me your protections. Others with something to say, PM as well... Good Night! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 02-03-2007 at 04:20 PM.

02-04-2007, 03:51 PM	#7
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	The Hunter remade his list of the three he suspected. He had turned his mind around now. He was waiting for the wolves to come but they didn’t. He heard some noises though... There were steps he heard from outside but it was silence after them. Then there were the sounds of a struggle. He thought for it a while and then decided to stay out of it. He had to stay alive anyway... .................... The Ranger that had decided to protect the self-declared Hunter had frozen at his front door. Soon she heard the steps in the dark. They were coming straight to her. Someone or someones were moving in the Night and she didn’t like the way it sounded. She was getting more alarmed, sensing everything she could. The Augur pulled her cloak away to hear better but at the same time another of the wolves was on her. She fell down and tried to fight back, drawing her sword as the wolf went on her. The other one nicely threw the sword away as it came to her throat. The sword disappeared at the moment. “You villains! “, Durelin shouted as her last words. The wolf bit her to the throat and killed her with that. “But you didn’t get him...” she managed to mumble before she died. The Ranger was dead. The wolves looked at each other and smiled... Dead: Volo – The Cryptic Lens Grinder – (ordo) hanged on Day1 Macalaure - Eiliniel's Witty Younger Brother Who's Always Right – (ordo) killed to his bed on Night2 Roa_Aoife - The Town Fletcher – (ordo) killed from behind while dozing off in the middle of her room on Night2 Celuien - The Innkeeper – (Ranger) throat slit on Night2 Morm – (ordo) beheaded on Day2 Eomer - A Beekeeper – (ordo) stinged to death by his own Bees on Night3 Gil-Galad - A Confused Philosopher – (ordo) sliced by the pendulum on Night3 Rune son of Bjarne - A Moonshiner – (Informer/cobbler) hacked to death with the golden dagger on Night3 Lalwendë - Eiliniel, A Retired Village Idiot – (beta-Wolf) mobbed and in the end stabbed to the chest on Day3 Durelin - The Augur of the Village - (Ranger) overcome by the wolves while guarding another Villager on Night4 Alive: Rikae - A Superstitious Mathematician Thinlómien - An Ugly Little Shepherdess Kath - A Weawer Boromir88 - The Serious Jester Mithalwen - A Frivolous Serving-Wench Farael – A Moose Tamer Anguirel - Gorlim's Lighthearted Brother, Anguirel the Merry Firefoot - A Homeless Waif Day4 has started. Please do your best... 8 persons: Two wolfs, three Gifteds, three ordinaries... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 02-04-2007 at 04:18 PM.

02-03-2007, 03:21 PM	#2
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	One vote switched to Firefoot would do it.

02-03-2007, 03:21 PM	#3
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Ang - I'm starting to feel you might be right about Lommy. Maybe...very maybe. (Well, obviously, I guess...)

02-04-2007, 04:16 PM	#9
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Oh that quote of Rikae defending Lal is from Day 2, post 206 I believe. __________________ Fenris Penguin

02-04-2007, 07:38 PM	#11
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	So. I'm not really all that surprised that Durelin was the one killed - and it was all the more likely if the other ranger had protected her last night and if the wolves knew it from the cobbler. Leaving only one ranger left alive will just make it easier for them to keep on getting a kill at night. It's disappointing, but not surprising. So who's left? I don't see any point in wasting effort trying to prove Ang and Boro aren't really gifted. That leaves: Farael - I'm not sure about him - no definite suspicions or anything; I'm fine with letting this play out as to whether he posts today or not. I'm not inclined to concentrate on him, not just because of that but because there are others higher up on my suspicion list. Rikae - Strange as it may sound, I'm actually not as sure of her as I thought I was. I keep going back and forth as to whether I think she's a wolf or not, which is why I was glad that the vote went to Lal and not to her yesterDay. My vote could still go to her pretty easily toDay. Thinlómien - I hope I haven't been trusting her primarily because she's been trusting me. Some of the things she has said look very planned, in retrospect - the same thing that made me suspect Lal yesterDay. I'd like to believe she's innocent, but there are so few suspects left that I'm not ready to write anybody off. Kath - Lal's being guilty has made the argument against her much more convincing. Her lynching might not be a bad idea. Mithalwen - She's probably the least suspicious of these last four and the least likely to get my vote unless someone can make a convincing case against her. Just as a heads-up: I won't be getting home until about a half-hour before the deadline, so I may cast an early vote tomorrow morning just to be safe. Hopefully though I'll have enough time to read through the rest of the Day's discussions so as to make a more informed vote... but you won't be hearing much from me toDay as far as analysis goes.