Abduction in Edoras Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

littlemanpoet · 02-09-2007, 09:31 PM

I have a thought to put this to rest by means of a narrative after this fashion:

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Here the narrative stops. The author of this tale did not finish it for reasons unbeknownst to this loremaster. Related accounts seem to provide knowledge where this story lacks an ending, and it runs more or less thusly:

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Linduial suddenly rose and flourished her blade. Sorn saw her and paused in his fight with Scyld, his expression ravenous. He raised his blade to throw it at her. Scyld called for her to duck. But at that very moment, the giant Gurth came up the rise and Scyld set himself to fight two opponents at once. Sorn reached back to begin his throw as Linduial stood transfixed. Scyld yelled her name again. Sorn began his throw. Gurth reached out and caught his arm at the last moment, and Sorn's blade was sent flying off uselessly, and fell to the ground. Sorn screamed at Gurth and charged him. Gurth raised his weapon and clove Sorn from his neck down, even as Sorn's blade found Gurth's oversized heart beneath his ribs. Sorn dropped and never rose again. Gurth sank heavily to his knees, then tipped like a felled tree, and slid down the rough hillside. Linduial and Scyld looked away. Only then did the charging brigade come upon them. Scyld was arrested despite Linduial's protests. By the end of the day, Linduial was safe in Edoras and in the keeping of Queen Lothiriel.

Scholars differ as to the accuracy of this version, but it seems to best fit the story preceding it, and appears to have been written in a hand similar to that which penned the longer version.

An alternative to the above would be to copy this into your own next post and edit it to your liking, discussing as we go, until all writers are satisfied that the necessary points are included, and then story done.

Well, what do you think?

Firefoot · 02-10-2007, 06:12 AM

I think that something like that is what will need to happen.

I did talk to Jenny a few days ago over IM; she said that she has been really busy and off and on sick, and I didn't get any kind of indication of when she was planning on coming back.

So.

That leaves me in something of a pickle, because much of Scyld's development has hinged on Linduial and I had initially intended that his coming to the Mead Hall would depend somehow on her. That leaves two dilemmas: why would he come to the Hall, and why would he then continue to stay? As for his coming, I think that if he had been arrested he would have, upon release, fled the city to make a new life elsewhere.

So I think that I'm going to go with my original intention that Scyld not be arrested but make his narrow escape between Sorn's and Gurth's deaths and the arrival of the rescuers. (The point ultimately being that he still doesn't trust Linduial - and this is a post that I had really wanted to write... not sure how that would fit in, though... perhaps if I did it as flashback when I brought Scyld to the Mead Hall? That might work best.) That way, when he would come to the Mead Hall, his face would be anonymous, and he could easily assume a new name.

As an asside thought, say Scyld was arrested, what might the punishment be? Or was Linduial right that he would be granted pardon if she pleaded for him? Because I don't want that... it's way too easy.

Also, I believe Jenny made reference in her last post for Linduial in the Mead Hall that Scyld was still a fugitive from the law. (That's the other reason I really want her to come back... I want to know really badly what she has up her sleeve for Linduial.)

The staying is easier. Tara and I have already talked about a possible link between Scyld and Lys, and I could easily use that.

Make sense?

littlemanpoet · 02-11-2007, 04:11 PM

Firefoot, perhaps what needs to happen is for you to take the raw material of the post I provided above, and write it from Scyld's point of view, including his escape in the nick of time.

Jenny and I had discussed possibilities for Linduial, and what we had worked out was that Linduial was going to come back to Rohan as an ambassador of Dol Amroth and its surrounding territories over which it rules. This would put her in an interesting position vis a vi Eodwine and other Eorls, as well as vis a vi the King and Queen of Rohan. I'm not sure what Tolkien had in place in terms of ambassadorial immunities and whatnot. They would probably not be the kind we have in RL; however, her status as princess and ambassador would give Linduial a unique position in Eorling society and politics.

If you use my raw material, changing it to fit what works best for Scyld's story, maybe you can work in the skeleton of what kind of relationshp Scyld might have with such an ambassador?

Folwren · 02-11-2007, 07:27 PM

Firefoot,

I do hope you do something good with Skyld. He's an excellent character.

And it would be amazingly interesting if he did come to the Mead Hall and was somehow connected to Lys. That would be crazy and fun. Perhaps the first stir of Lys' memory would return to him! What sort of connection do you suppose it would be? I'd more than excited. Thornden's very closely attached to Lys already and if Skyld came in and somehow upset the boy, I'd be able to have fun with Thornden......

Elempi,

Your idea is good. We would write that last bit much more detailed, would we not? Somehow?

-- Folwren

Taralphiel · 02-12-2007, 03:47 AM

I'm back. The technical difficulties became much worse before they got better. Hopefully it's all fixed now.

I'm making a post a priority. I'm amining for tomorrow night.

- Tara

Anguirel · 02-12-2007, 05:51 AM

I'm still around, and ready to post Gurth's part in proceedings - I too had been waiting for Jenny. Don't leave me out...!

littlemanpoet · 02-12-2007, 09:43 AM

Excellent! Feel free to use the raw material in my post above, and feel free to NOT use it, since you're both willing to write a post.

I think, for the sake of keeping things moving, we can safely assume that Linduial was going to risk her neck in something resembling my guess in that same post. So unless and until we hear otherwise from Jenny, let's just make that assumption as the basis for our own posts; sound reasonable?

This is, by the way, a suggestion. This is not my rpg, it's Jenny's, and I'll help in whatever way I can, including shutting up and leaving well enough alone.

02-10-2007, 06:12 AM	#2
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Jumbled thoughts I think that something like that is what will need to happen. I did talk to Jenny a few days ago over IM; she said that she has been really busy and off and on sick, and I didn't get any kind of indication of when she was planning on coming back. So. That leaves me in something of a pickle, because much of Scyld's development has hinged on Linduial and I had initially intended that his coming to the Mead Hall would depend somehow on her. That leaves two dilemmas: why would he come to the Hall, and why would he then continue to stay? As for his coming, I think that if he had been arrested he would have, upon release, fled the city to make a new life elsewhere. So I think that I'm going to go with my original intention that Scyld not be arrested but make his narrow escape between Sorn's and Gurth's deaths and the arrival of the rescuers. (The point ultimately being that he still doesn't trust Linduial - and this is a post that I had really wanted to write... not sure how that would fit in, though... perhaps if I did it as flashback when I brought Scyld to the Mead Hall? That might work best.) That way, when he would come to the Mead Hall, his face would be anonymous, and he could easily assume a new name. As an asside thought, say Scyld was arrested, what might the punishment be? Or was Linduial right that he would be granted pardon if she pleaded for him? Because I don't want that... it's way too easy. Also, I believe Jenny made reference in her last post for Linduial in the Mead Hall that Scyld was still a fugitive from the law. (That's the other reason I really want her to come back... I want to know really badly what she has up her sleeve for Linduial.) The staying is easier. Tara and I have already talked about a possible link between Scyld and Lys, and I could easily use that. Make sense?

02-11-2007, 07:27 PM	#4
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Firefoot, I do hope you do something good with Skyld. He's an excellent character. And it would be amazingly interesting if he did come to the Mead Hall and was somehow connected to Lys. That would be crazy and fun. Perhaps the first stir of Lys' memory would return to him! What sort of connection do you suppose it would be? I'd more than excited. Thornden's very closely attached to Lys already and if Skyld came in and somehow upset the boy, I'd be able to have fun with Thornden...... Elempi, Your idea is good. We would write that last bit much more detailed, would we not? Somehow? -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

02-12-2007, 03:47 AM	#5
Taralphiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Swan Wood Posts: 649	Quick note... I'm back. The technical difficulties became much worse before they got better. Hopefully it's all fixed now. I'm making a post a priority. I'm amining for tomorrow night. - Tara

02-12-2007, 05:51 AM	#6
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	I'm still around, and ready to post Gurth's part in proceedings - I too had been waiting for Jenny. Don't leave me out...! __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

02-11-2007, 04:11 PM	#3
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Firefoot, perhaps what needs to happen is for you to take the raw material of the post I provided above, and write it from Scyld's point of view, including his escape in the nick of time. Jenny and I had discussed possibilities for Linduial, and what we had worked out was that Linduial was going to come back to Rohan as an ambassador of Dol Amroth and its surrounding territories over which it rules. This would put her in an interesting position vis a vi Eodwine and other Eorls, as well as vis a vi the King and Queen of Rohan. I'm not sure what Tolkien had in place in terms of ambassadorial immunities and whatnot. They would probably not be the kind we have in RL; however, her status as princess and ambassador would give Linduial a unique position in Eorling society and politics. If you use my raw material, changing it to fit what works best for Scyld's story, maybe you can work in the skeleton of what kind of relationshp Scyld might have with such an ambassador?

02-12-2007, 09:43 AM	#7
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Excellent! Feel free to use the raw material in my post above, and feel free to NOT use it, since you're both willing to write a post. I think, for the sake of keeping things moving, we can safely assume that Linduial was going to risk her neck in something resembling my guess in that same post. So unless and until we hear otherwise from Jenny, let's just make that assumption as the basis for our own posts; sound reasonable? This is, by the way, a suggestion. This is not my rpg, it's Jenny's, and I'll help in whatever way I can, including shutting up and leaving well enough alone.