Gandalf Captured!? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-11-2007, 09:56 AM

That's one of the main things Tolkien points out: the blindness of those who lust for power. This repeats in Professor's works again and again, I think it is quite obvious and one of the central parts of it. "Hurrah, I have the Seventh Dwarven Ring!" Finish. I think its very logical.

About Gandalf - I suppose Gandalf's presence was not so strong as Sauron's, and Dol Guldur wasn't Mordor. I think if Gandalf wanted to be hidden, he remained hidden there (if he avoided going too close to Sauron).

MatthewM - what do you mean by "find Sauron"? No one ventured to Dol Guldur except Gandalf. The Elves who lived there fled when the Shadow came, and there were dark beasts in the woods, they knew there is something evil in Dol Guldur, but no one went there to check it. After all, some "evil power" was for example also in Moria, and no one also went there except Thrain.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 02-11-2007, 01:24 PM

Fair enough, it fits Tolkien's point. It just makes me think that I'd be a better Dark Lord than Sauron.

Matt, Sauron did have a physical form. There's a bunch of stuff on the Downs about it. Just type 'Sauron', 'physical' or 'eyeball' into the search engine.

02-11-2007, 09:56 AM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	That's one of the main things Tolkien points out: the blindness of those who lust for power. This repeats in Professor's works again and again, I think it is quite obvious and one of the central parts of it. "Hurrah, I have the Seventh Dwarven Ring!" Finish. I think its very logical. About Gandalf - I suppose Gandalf's presence was not so strong as Sauron's, and Dol Guldur wasn't Mordor. I think if Gandalf wanted to be hidden, he remained hidden there (if he avoided going too close to Sauron). MatthewM - what do you mean by "find Sauron"? No one ventured to Dol Guldur except Gandalf. The Elves who lived there fled when the Shadow came, and there were dark beasts in the woods, they knew there is something evil in Dol Guldur, but no one went there to check it. After all, some "evil power" was for example also in Moria, and no one also went there except Thrain. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories Last edited by Legate of Amon Lanc; 02-11-2007 at 10:00 AM.

02-11-2007, 01:24 PM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Fair enough, it fits Tolkien's point. It just makes me think that I'd be a better Dark Lord than Sauron. Matt, Sauron did have a physical form. There's a bunch of stuff on the Downs about it. Just type 'Sauron', 'physical' or 'eyeball' into the search engine. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond