The mis-interpretation of dear Gimli - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

davem · 02-11-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight of Gondor

What other comic relief are you talking about?

Falling off the horse, the dwarf tossing jokes, the drunken flatulence, the 'Shall I get you a box?' 'joke'.... He was repeatedly the butt of jokes.

Knight of Gondor · 02-11-2007, 03:26 PM

Falling off the horse was done in a comedic style, but his dislike/distrust of horses was shown in the books. I don't recall any flatulance, but I do remember a belch or two...

MatthewM · 02-12-2007, 10:08 PM

hahaha, I will admit, I enjoy the drunken Gimli scene very much.

Thinlómien · 02-13-2007, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewM

hahaha, I will admit, I enjoy the drunken Gimli scene very much.

How many negative reputations you've got for that one this far?

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Falling off the horse, the dwarf tossing jokes, the drunken flatulence, the 'Shall I get you a box?' 'joke'.... He was repeatedly the butt of jokes.

To add on the list: jokes about dwarf women and lots of stupid facial expressions (take the one when he sees the warg on top of him for example), for starters.

Mithalwen · 02-13-2007, 06:19 AM

At least the dwarf women joke was referring to fact....

In one of the books of criticism I have read (and I will check), the author points out that Gimli does NOT joke.. he makes only one jest in the whole thing and that is when he finds the hobbits smoking in the ruins of Isengard.

However to be fair to the filmmakers once you have got through the native stamping grounds of Moria and Lorien, Legolas and Gimli are not essential to the plot. They are companions to Aragorn, representatives of their fading races (not something that was highlighted anyway in these action orientated film), but no significant twists rely on them as with Merry and Pippin. However you can't get rid of them.So what do you do with them? Legolas slips into pretty boy eyecandy and Gimli is the funny man....

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-13-2007, 10:42 AM

Yes. Something like in the current movie trand every action Main Hero (here represented by Aragorn) must have two sidekicks, who would have to be a nice lass (here represented by Legolas) and a funny fat cop (here represented by Gimli).

Elladan and Elrohir · 02-13-2007, 04:10 PM

Humor is something the films desperately need, and how much of it is there beyond Gimli? Precious little. Merry and Pippin supply some comic relief in the first one, and Gollum gives you a bit at a couple of points, but there's not much else. I don't have a problem with Gimli being the butt of jokes. Better him than, well, just about any other major character.

02-11-2007, 03:26 PM	#2
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	Falling off the horse was done in a comedic style, but his dislike/distrust of horses was shown in the books. I don't recall any flatulance, but I do remember a belch or two... __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

02-12-2007, 10:08 PM	#3
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 628	hahaha, I will admit, I enjoy the drunken Gimli scene very much. __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring

02-13-2007, 06:19 AM	#5
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	At least the dwarf women joke was referring to fact.... In one of the books of criticism I have read (and I will check), the author points out that Gimli does NOT joke.. he makes only one jest in the whole thing and that is when he finds the hobbits smoking in the ruins of Isengard. However to be fair to the filmmakers once you have got through the native stamping grounds of Moria and Lorien, Legolas and Gimli are not essential to the plot. They are companions to Aragorn, representatives of their fading races (not something that was highlighted anyway in these action orientated film), but no significant twists rely on them as with Merry and Pippin. However you can't get rid of them.So what do you do with them? Legolas slips into pretty boy eyecandy and Gimli is the funny man.... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-13-2007, 10:42 AM	#6
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Yes. Something like in the current movie trand every action Main Hero (here represented by Aragorn) must have two sidekicks, who would have to be a nice lass (here represented by Legolas) and a funny fat cop (here represented by Gimli). __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

02-13-2007, 04:10 PM	#7
Elladan and Elrohir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 332	Humor is something the films desperately need, and how much of it is there beyond Gimli? Precious little. Merry and Pippin supply some comic relief in the first one, and Gollum gives you a bit at a couple of points, but there's not much else. I don't have a problem with Gimli being the butt of jokes. Better him than, well, just about any other major character. __________________ "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved. All I did was give your uncle a little nudge out of the door." THE HOBBIT - IT'S COMING