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Roa_Aoife · 02-28-2007, 01:48 PM

You're right, it would make it easier if I died, but I'm not upset about that. Werewolf is a game where you could end up dead at any moment. I'm upset because everyone is disregarding me as lying out of hand, and it seems they aren't even really considering the possibility that Rikae is lying, despite it being my word against hers right now. Frankly, that hurts. I can understand not trusting me- I wouldn't either- but this blind trust in Rikae is more than alarming, it's down right insulting!

As I've said, my death will prove Rikae is lying (hence why she is so resistant to the idea.) I've discouraged the real seer from coming forward, becuase one innocent isn't wirth it with so many of us to burnm through. And since, you won't even consider that I'm telling the truth until I'm dead:

++Roa Aoife

Heck, if everyone changes their vote to me, we can have the first unanimous lynch in WW history. (A small dream of mine.

) I'm done contributing, and if everyone thinks my death is for the good of the village, who am I to argue.

Mithalwen · 02-28-2007, 01:53 PM

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I have just been refreshing a completed page.... but then noone takes any notice of me either..... Don't you realise how short of innocents we are going to be.... Roa is either an innocent or a cobbler which counts as an innocent for victory. If she is a cobbler and known, she is neutralised.

I don't think we can afford to kill her with 3 players gone voluntarily and Glirdan looking iffy......

Roa_Aoife · 02-28-2007, 02:02 PM

Give it up, Mith. They aren't going to listen. They believe they can asorb the loss of three innocents (Myself and the kill of the night, and Hookbill, if he goes) and still be prepared to face four wolves. Since they all seem to trust Rikae, they're also gambling the loss of their seer. At which point, they'd be at 11 to 4, with only two gifteds. Of course, seeing as their wrong, they'll be at 10 -5, albiet with their seer still alive. (Assuming that the seer isn't the innocent killed tonight.) Who was it that was trying to say the village could asorb that loss?

Mithalwen · 02-28-2007, 02:05 PM

Nogrod... and though the fat lady may be doing her vocalise... I am not giving up yet...

Mithalwen · 02-28-2007, 02:07 PM

No, I am prepared ot get killed I am not going to be a lemming. We can kill Roa anytime , we need dead wolves.... we would be better off lynching a non participant. At least we know the score with Roa..why can't you see we have to play the percentages in this game?

Mithalwen · 02-28-2007, 02:09 PM

Noone has answered why Rikae didn't state her dream straight away.

Sudenly she started to suspect me when I didn't immediately take her word? That, I find odd.

Nogrod · 02-28-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Noone has answered why Rikae didn't state her dream straight away.

I find that very reasonable indeed - it was wise to see what the known-to-her does first before she knows she's revealed. Very clever I'd say.

EDIT: X'd with Mith and needing a cigarette...

Nogrod · 02-28-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I am not giving up yet...

I kind of appreciate. Even though Roa doesn't seem to read what I write

I am still of the opinion (stated many times) that Rikae might bluff. But I still think we're better off this way as it looks to me more probable - with possible clearing of things tomorrow & information becoming available toMorrow as well.

Of course is someone would go for Spm I might reconsider... but that would still be a shot in relative greyness (even thoug I myself am somewhat convinced about his guilt at the moment).

Mithalwen · 02-28-2007, 02:11 PM

I would. I feel you are innocent. Roa is AT WORST a cobler. I could believe SPM guilty for his quibble and hasty vote for Roa...

Roa_Aoife · 02-28-2007, 02:17 PM

I'd go for SPM in a heartbeat if I thought it would do any good. But everyone will likely say, "Oh, she's just being a cobbler trying to save her own skin. She thinks SPM is innocent, or she wouldn't risk it!" And thus nothing would come of it. He's managed to completely ignore the accusations against him and noone has siad a thing about it.

And Manwe, it's not absurd. It's the truth, and others have admitted that it's plausible. Including Nogrod (thank you for correcting me), whom, if you believe Rikae, is a known innocent. You need to learn how to temper your words. It'a a lesson I learned the hard way, and if you fail to realize it, you'll only end up dead in this game.

Mithalwen · 02-28-2007, 02:20 PM

Well Roa, I am not sure about you but I don't see the point of lynching someone who we know isn't a wolf with ordos dropping like flies. I think Gil has voted like SPM and is unlikely ot return so it is going to be best shot.

++ The Saucepan Man

the guy who be short · 02-28-2007, 02:25 PM

++BRINNIEL

As the only person on both my and Rikae's suspect list, and for the reasons I have already stated.

We need to kill a wolf. We do not need to kill a cobbler. Simple as.

Nogrod · 02-28-2007, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I don't think we can afford to kill her with 3 players gon voluntarily and Glirdan looking iffy......

Please Mith see also what Durelin and I said some posts ago about it. In a village with people who don't read what others write, an alarmed around at deadline cobbler might be devastating making the last retraction or whatever. I wouldn't leave even a known cobbler Roa to the village with Glirdy and Gil (no offence meant to either one

). We'd be lost then.

Mänwe · 02-28-2007, 02:06 PM

Roa, no-one has ignored you, I find what you say absurd. We are not blindly following Rikae, you yourself say it would be best for you to die to proove Rikae right or wrong.

That is our only course of action to prove finally who was telling the truth. You admit that, so don't go on about people ignoring you. Reasons why I think people have not taken up your advice thus far Mith, they haven't ignored you.

Nogrod, no offence taken, and I see your point, though it is all too easy to just say because two people agree with eachother they are in league and so must be faithful's. Did you not say you were agreeing with everything Legate or Rune was saying?

02-28-2007, 01:48 PM	#1
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	You're right, it would make it easier if I died, but I'm not upset about that. Werewolf is a game where you could end up dead at any moment. I'm upset because everyone is disregarding me as lying out of hand, and it seems they aren't even really considering the possibility that Rikae is lying, despite it being my word against hers right now. Frankly, that hurts. I can understand not trusting me- I wouldn't either- but this blind trust in Rikae is more than alarming, it's down right insulting! As I've said, my death will prove Rikae is lying (hence why she is so resistant to the idea.) I've discouraged the real seer from coming forward, becuase one innocent isn't wirth it with so many of us to burnm through. And since, you won't even consider that I'm telling the truth until I'm dead: ++Roa Aoife Heck, if everyone changes their vote to me, we can have the first unanimous lynch in WW history. (A small dream of mine. ) I'm done contributing, and if everyone thinks my death is for the good of the village, who am I to argue. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

02-28-2007, 01:53 PM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I have just been refreshing a completed page.... but then noone takes any notice of me either..... Don't you realise how short of innocents we are going to be.... Roa is either an innocent or a cobbler which counts as an innocent for victory. If she is a cobbler and known, she is neutralised. I don't think we can afford to kill her with 3 players gone voluntarily and Glirdan looking iffy...... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace Last edited by Mithalwen; 02-28-2007 at 02:27 PM. Reason: sp

02-28-2007, 02:02 PM	#3
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Give it up, Mith. They aren't going to listen. They believe they can asorb the loss of three innocents (Myself and the kill of the night, and Hookbill, if he goes) and still be prepared to face four wolves. Since they all seem to trust Rikae, they're also gambling the loss of their seer. At which point, they'd be at 11 to 4, with only two gifteds. Of course, seeing as their wrong, they'll be at 10 -5, albiet with their seer still alive. (Assuming that the seer isn't the innocent killed tonight.) Who was it that was trying to say the village could asorb that loss? __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

02-28-2007, 02:05 PM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Nogrod... and though the fat lady may be doing her vocalise... I am not giving up yet... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-28-2007, 02:07 PM	#5
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	No, I am prepared ot get killed I am not going to be a lemming. We can kill Roa anytime , we need dead wolves.... we would be better off lynching a non participant. At least we know the score with Roa..why can't you see we have to play the percentages in this game? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-28-2007, 02:09 PM	#6
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Noone has answered why Rikae didn't state her dream straight away. Sudenly she started to suspect me when I didn't immediately take her word? That, I find odd. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-28-2007, 02:11 PM	#9
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I would. I feel you are innocent. Roa is AT WORST a cobler. I could believe SPM guilty for his quibble and hasty vote for Roa... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-28-2007, 02:17 PM	#10
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	I'd go for SPM in a heartbeat if I thought it would do any good. But everyone will likely say, "Oh, she's just being a cobbler trying to save her own skin. She thinks SPM is innocent, or she wouldn't risk it!" And thus nothing would come of it. He's managed to completely ignore the accusations against him and noone has siad a thing about it. And Manwe, it's not absurd. It's the truth, and others have admitted that it's plausible. Including Nogrod (thank you for correcting me), whom, if you believe Rikae, is a known innocent. You need to learn how to temper your words. It'a a lesson I learned the hard way, and if you fail to realize it, you'll only end up dead in this game. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

02-28-2007, 02:20 PM	#11
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Well Roa, I am not sure about you but I don't see the point of lynching someone who we know isn't a wolf with ordos dropping like flies. I think Gil has voted like SPM and is unlikely ot return so it is going to be best shot. ++ The Saucepan Man __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-28-2007, 02:25 PM	#12
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	++BRINNIEL As the only person on both my and Rikae's suspect list, and for the reasons I have already stated. We need to kill a wolf. We do not need to kill a cobbler. Simple as.

02-28-2007, 02:06 PM	#14
Mänwe Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: May as well be the Arctic Circle Posts: 283	Roa, no-one has ignored you, I find what you say absurd. We are not blindly following Rikae, you yourself say it would be best for you to die to proove Rikae right or wrong. That is our only course of action to prove finally who was telling the truth. You admit that, so don't go on about people ignoring you. Reasons why I think people have not taken up your advice thus far Mith, they haven't ignored you. Nogrod, no offence taken, and I see your point, though it is all too easy to just say because two people agree with eachother they are in league and so must be faithful's. Did you not say you were agreeing with everything Legate or Rune was saying? __________________ "I am, I fear, a most unsatisfactory person." - (Letter #124 To Sir Stanley Unwin)