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Old 03-01-2007, 02:42 PM   #11
Raynor
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Still the Persians were not men but beasts because they lacked the essence of humanity (mankind) which is Reason expressed through Greek language and which is shown in the reasoned society they had built them in the city-states.
May I ask where this idea appears, during which period it was representative of the greeks, and the likes? There are hot heads in every era and country, so I wouldn't mind some background on the matter in this debate.
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So the ancient thought didn't classify the world according to looks but according to essences. The prof knew this well enough and I believe used it accordingly.
I hardly see ground for comparison, as I know no evidence of rohirrim-supremacist philosophy. Independent, yes; but not ubermenschen, or whatever the appropriate title would be.
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but do you think that the Rohirrim did recognise them as sentient people?
No, the core of my argument is Tolkien's statement that the drugs weren't recognised as such, at least as long as there were attacks . Afterwards, yes; they were able to see their crafts and abilities, as apparent from Elfhelm's words.
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