Werewolf XXX - Tol-in-Elendili - The Isle of the Were-Faithfuls

[Mithalwen]

I am back...... I must say that I didn't have any particular feeling about TGWBS - I suppose I was inclined to trust himbecasue he seemed genuinely persuaded of my innocence - which from my point of view made him seem like a bona fide ordo since but clearly he was a wolf acting suspicious..... I'm a mug....

but since he was up against two people I strongly suspected (and who seemed might get lynched) I had no intention of changing my vote ot him and so didn't examine closer....

[Kath]

And where's Kitanna and Kath? Though they never post much, they are normally fairly vocal.

I'm sorry. The trials of yesterday (RL) have continued as well as some extra ones from toDay and I've only just got back. But not that much seems to have gone on toDay as it is.

From what I've read I actually think Lommy's analysis is pretty good. What's she has come up with generally agrees with my own thoughts (which probably means she's a wolf and she has a whole bunch of innocents listed as suspicious, though to my mind she looks innocent still).

I was suspicious of Legate a couple of Days ago and have seen little from him since, still less that would make me change my mind.

Sauce I still find suspicious. He quibbles over exactly who said what too much for my liking and he really went for it against Lalaith yesterDay, which threw me slightly. Innocents in general (unless they're Farael) always have some measure of unsurety in their posts, which he didn't seem to.

Hookbill I'm still not entirely sure on. I thought him suspicious the other Day and it is entirely possible that one of the wolves is a quiet person. Those who I would consider truly quiet are Hookbill and Gil, and since I think Gil innocent it does, to me, add credence to the idea that Hookbill could be a wolf.

Then there's Durelin. There have been times when I've been quite suspicious of her, yet her most recent posts have seemed very innocent and helpful. Her most recent one especially. I think I may have changed my mind on her.

I won't vote now as I will be around probably until the deadline for once. But at the moment I'm leaning towards voting Sauce, and if not him then Hookbill.

[Lalaith]

Lommy, I'd disagree slightly with this assessment;

Lalaith was slightly suspicious of him and wasn't sure what to think of him on Day3. TGWBS suspected her quite strongly on Day4.
Lalaith was uneasy about him and voted him (though retracted) on Day4.

Guy was in my top four suspects on both Day 3 & 4. By day four I was a lot more than uneasy. In fact, the reason I was torn, as I said before I voted, between him and Saucie is that I felt that both were probably wolves so I didn't mind which one of them got lynched.
Nothing of course is certain in Werewolf and it may be that I am being an unusually misguided and pig-headed innocent. But I remain convinced, despite the mutual voting today, that both Durelin and Saucie are wolves, and, knowing one of them would probably be lynched, the other is hoping to gain kudos for helping the task along.
I still have a tiny doubt about Durelin but very little about Saucie.
++SAUCEPANMAN

[Kitanna]

I just wrote out somethings and the computer I'm on decided to delete it. And also since I'm away from home I have limited access.

But I've been looking at SpM and Durelin as best I can. I've read the cases against them and I'd say Durelin looks far more innocent than SpM. But I haven't looked at either hard enough to truly vote for either. I realize I should vote for one or the other because one is most likely a faithful, but I'm held back. I haven't given enough attention to either to feel comfortable voting for them.
But I'm going to look back and perhaps change my mind. If I run out of time or I turn up nothing I will vote for one of my suspects from yesterday.

[Kitanna]

Something just caught my eye and I see Durelin also noticed it. Gil has been suspecting tgwbs and SpM all along. If SpM bites it today and is a faithful I think a close look at Gil is needed. I'm not sure his suspicious are just dumbluck. Howver this depends on the guilt or innocence of SpM.

So looking mostly at posts from today (and a few from late yesterday) I think Durelin may well be innocent. I believe if SpM is guilty, than Durelin is probably innocent (and vice versa). I don't want to see Durelin lynched. Her posts today cry innocence to me. I could be reading them horribly wrong.

Regardless of who is lynched today I think a close look should be taken at Gil. I have lessened my suspcions of my other four and moved Gil up.
He is almost always quiet and keeps his posts short. But he was right in his "hunch" about tgwbs. He has suspected and voted for SpM and now he votes for Durelin. If either one of them turns out to be a faithful (and I'm sure one will be) I'd say Gil's hunches may be more than they seem.

I'd like to vote for Gil, Hookbill, or to a way lesser extent Lalaith (I've moved her down due to my suspcions of Gil). But I will hold off my voting for a little while (probably about 10 minutes) just to see what happens.

[Lalaith]

Hang on a minute Kitanna. You're sure either Saucie or Durelin will turn out to be a faithful, you think Durelin's posts cry out innocence, (so therefore one must infer you think Sauce a faithful) but then you want to vote for either Gil, Hookbill or perhaps me?

[Lalaith]

I mean, by all means vote where you wish to, but I just thought this needed explaining.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Hang on a minute Kitanna. You're sure either Saucie or Durelin will turn out to be a faithful, you think Durelin's posts cry out innocence, (so therefore one must infer you think Sauce a faithful) but then you want to vote for either Gil, Hookbill or perhaps me?

I don't feel I have a strong case against SpM or I'd vote for him. I know that probably sounds stupid or ridiculous, but I'd rather vote for someone I have a case against and not just some gut feeling. Because in the end all I have against (or for) either SpM or Durelin is a gut feeling.

[Durelin]

About 15 minutes till the close of the Day and we still have not heard from Hookbill. He did vote yesterDay, though, at least, so luckily we aren't running the risk again of untimely losing another innocent. He definitely needs to be looked at again, even though we really don't have much to go on him.

If we have another wolf in SPM, if the wolves get a kill toNight, tomorrow it will be 6 of us against 2 wolves; if not, it will be 3 against five? Why do these things always come down to the wire...

Wow, it seems like it's been a while since the voting hasn't been neck-to-neck to the last minute. *waits for the retractions to start*

[Mithalwen]

Well this village has been peculiarly suicidal.......... but we still have a ranger..and a hunter ......so we may get a bonus.....

[Mithalwen]

So 3votes for Mr Teflon and 2 forDurelin....

Hmm

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Well, I am back and seeing nothing much has changed. The quiet village seems somewhat... scary.

SpM - I am still reluctant to accuse him as a Faithful because others do; I don't know: on first sight, SpM looks like a good cheery fellow who tries to help the village very actively, bringing up points, posting lists etc. If this is not a covered Faithfullishness but merely an attempt to help, then, I wouldn't like to thin our numbers by mistake. Though the way tgwbs spoke about him is something which hints there could be a connection between them, so he is still looking the "surest" option to me, at least for now.
The other subject might be Mithalwen, though her latter posts somewhat calm me. Hmm...

Gil-Galad, as I said above, I think is probably innocent. The same goes for Hookbill, I am still inclined to believe his "honest reluctance". Concerning Durelin, for those of you who know D&D, I'd say it this way: I don't know whether to consider her "chaotic good" or "chaotic evil". But if I had to judge her general behavior, I am inclined to see her not a Faithful. The similar goes probably about Lommy, although I had some strange feelings on her lately, now I think she is ok.

Lalaith... I never quite got the start of her case, I don't see anything particularly suspicious on her. Only a question:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Villagers, if I'm right about who the wolves are, we really are in trouble.
These Faithfuls are also among the most frequent and vocal posters - most of the innocents are quiet ones. I have a horrible feeling of deja vu, vis a vis duelling wizards and the wolf of the Rohirrim. Beware. Please post and participate, innocents.

I must say this actually quite creeped me out when I first saw it, because I don't know what to think of it. What was that supposed to mean, Lalaith? (and what is duelling wizards anyway?)

Kath is still undecipherable to me (maybe it is because of that avatar ) - I don't have any particular opinion on her.

I'll wait if Kitanna appears here, otherwise I think everyone has showed up...

EDIT: Seems like it wasn't that quiet after all, Kitanna was already here...

[Kitanna]

++ Saucepan Man

I'd rather vote for one of my other suspects, rather than on a gut feeling that either Durelin or SpM is guilty. However, I feel Durelin is innocent and I'd rather have her kept alive.

Tomorrow I'd like to take a long hard look at Gil.

[Mithalwen]

I will probably go with Pan man..thought I haven't read as much as I would like .... just a feeling from the day one dynamic..adn I suspect that Roa suspected him of being a faithful and her initial vote was a bluff.

I wish Hookbill woul dpost but he clearly is not going to be an option for today

[Kath]

Ok, I'd better vote now.

++SAUCE

For what I said earlier.

I'm not sure about looking at Gil, Kitanna. That slip about the wolves killing Glirdan ... I just can't see him doing it on purpose. It's possible, but of the quiet ones I think I'd still be more inclined to believe Hookbill a wolf than Gil.

[Lalaith]

Sorry Legate. The Wolf of the Rohirrim is Eomer, one of the most sinister wolves/players ever to plague a village, so I'm not surprised you were creeped out even by the mention of his name. I was referring to a previous WW game, duelling wizards, when I pleaded with villagers to lynch Eomer, who I was convinced was a wolf. The innocents were mostly quiet ones, the wolves won the day and lynched me instead, and the game was lost to the innocents.

What I was trying to say was that if I was right, and the wolves are indeed Saucie, Durelin and possibly Mith, they would be an unusually formidable pack and the rest of us needed to fight back with as much force and participation as we could muster.
But back to the subject at hand.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Sorry Legate. The Wolf of the Rohirrim is Eomer, one of the most sinister wolves/players ever to plague a village, so I'm not surprised you were creeped out even by the mention of his name. I was referring to a previous WW game, duelling wizards, when I pleaded with villagers to lynch Eomer, who I was convinced was a wolf. The innocents were mostly quiet ones, the wolves won the day and lynched me instead, and the game was lost to the innocents.

What I was trying to say was that if I was right, and the wolves are indeed Saucie, Durelin and possibly Mith, they would be an unusually formidable pack and the rest of us needed to fight back with as much force and participation as we could muster.
But back to the subject at hand.

Oh. All right then.

Well, considering that there is probably nothing interesting happening today any more, I am going to trust the "proof". And let's hope we have not made mistake this time.

++the Saucepan Man