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Durelin · 03-09-2007, 05:12 PM

God I feel so stupid...

We are but six, and two among us our wolves...we have no wild cards anymore, no protection...and you're all scary!

Lalaith, you're making sense, though...finally.

I think it quite likely that Lommy would have had Kitanna on her list, but I am not sure who else. We're just lucky (hah, yeah, right) that this type of Hunter does not take innocents down with them in the Night...

Considering the situation we're in, I'm willing to work on the assumption that Kitanna is innocent. I think we kind of have to, because otherwise we're just a mob pointing fingers yet again.

The fact that Lommy voted for Kitanna, along with the good possibility that the wolves have as sharp of eyes as Lalaith does in spotting a possible Ranger-Hunter communication, makes me comfortable with Kitanna's innocence. And the fact that Lalaith has gone through all the trouble to prove this, and suggested the Kath kill was a likely Ranger-slaying attempt makes me feel a lot better about her than I have this entire game. Things are looking a little clearer to me. At least the death of the Hunter has given us some information to work with.

I have thought Hookbill's overly cautious and "oh, don't look at me, I'm new at this" thing was hiding something more, and his vote for Gil yesterDay made me wonder about him even more. Perhaps at the start of a bandwagon lynch of the Ranger is a pretty un-safe place to hide, but that late in the game, getting the Gifteds I imagine would be top priority, especially if they know each other's identity.

Mith's behavior near the end of the voting and at the end was odd... She suddenly warns about Gil possibly being a Gifted, she said before that she thinks him innocent, and then she votes for him anyway... Why? To be lost among the other Gil voters, or just to make sure he couldn't be saved? If she is a wolf, then that will explain all of my confusion about her rather dramatic behavior... I was rather convinced she was innocent until late yesterDay. Perhaps I should feel doubly stupid?

My stomach is killing me, so I'm going to chill for a bit, but I'll be back...

I can tell you right now, though, that my vote will very likely go for either Hookbill or Mith. I will hold off voting as long as I can, though...whoever dies toDay has to be a wolf. There are still four of us innocents out there, so please, please be here and vote!! We haven't lost yet!

Durelin · 03-09-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalaith

Does that make a difference to the decision of the wolves to kill Kath rather than Kitanna, if they thought they were the Hunter/Ranger pair?

Actually I think it might back up your theory more. Because if they thought Kath and Kitanna a Ranger-Hunter pair, then they went after Kath instead of Kitanna because they thought her the Ranger and wanted to get the Hunter lynched...? It doesn't prove anything on it's own, but...

Agh, I feel so alone. It's way way too quiet.

Durelin · 03-09-2007, 10:17 PM

Well, I need to get to bed and unfortunately I don't think I'll be back before the deadline.

Darn this Catholic guilt that makes me say I'll do something on the weekend that I really really don't want to do...particularly when it gets in the way of WW...

Quick concern about Lalaith - her "Anyway I think this Gil bandwaggon is totally misguided" turned out nice and strategic. Then her "I'd rather have voted for Hookbill if there was any possibility of him getting lynched" bugs me because she didn't drive very hard for his lynching. Playing it safe?

Anyway, I have to vote now... I have felt uneasy about Hookbill the entire game, and his vote for Gil yesterDay looks the most wolfish to me of any of the votes for Gil. On the other hand, Mith's switch on Gil seems really odd to me. But her vote wasn't necessary to lynch him, was it? So then it would be a wasted bold move for a wolf...

I'll go with what my gut has been telling me for a while...

++Hookbill

Please, other innocents, vote toDay!!

Lalaith · 03-10-2007, 01:31 AM

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her "I'd rather have voted for Hookbill if there was any possibility of him getting lynched" bugs me because she didn't drive very hard for his lynching. Playing it safe?

Nothing sinister there. My worries about Hookbill were mostly related to my theory which I could only spell out today. I couldn't argue a case for his lynching without explaining my reasons...

I'm now worried that perhaps Lommy changed her list after yesterDay's events. And that it wasn't Kitanna and Durelin on it after all. Perhaps she's screaming in frustration from beyond the grave.

I will not be around toNight after 5pm. Which is nice and handy for any wolves.
But I will post some analysis in an hour or so.
Where IS everyone? Mith and Hookbill have both said they can't be around much.
Kitanna? Legate?

Mithalwen · 03-10-2007, 04:07 AM

I have dashed out while my house guest is in teh bath. This may be my only visit! so I may have to vote quickly.

The reason I voted for Gil despite my words and doubts was that while my vote was pointless for the lynch registering any vote yesterday would protect me from summary removal if I couldn't get on line today (real probability) and would keep me in the game assuming I survived ..

Now I am sure a few of you will say that this is becasue I am a wolf but it is just because I am innocent and the village needs me.... to make up the numbers at least.

durelin I share your concern about Lalaith ..that was really fishy given the timing..

Lalaith · 03-10-2007, 04:26 AM

Hmm...this is actually pretty fishy. *points up*

Durelin is happy to accept my analysis, eg by accepting that Kitanna is probably innocent. Yet she departs with a slight attempt to discredit me.
If you think I'm not to be trusted, Durelin, why do you trust my theories?

Then Mith leaps in, not with any speculation about Lommy and her list (which frankly should be the focus of any innocent today, as it one of the few pieces of evidence we have) but jumping on this comment instead.

I'm half way through a big analysis of Durelin, Hookbill and Mith, and I've got some interesting things. I've got to go out now, but I'll be back later this afternoon to post them up and decide on my vote.

Mithalwen · 03-10-2007, 04:29 AM

Especially since during the day all she said was I'm a bit worried about Hookbill a couple of times with no supporting evidence.... Hookbill is worrying by his quietness and his I'm a novice I keep quite type approach but this seems like a back covering exercise sine money was not put where mouth was.

I am inclined to think that Hookbill and Lalaith are our remaining wolves and Lalaith was covering her back.

I do however think it unlikely that Lommy would not have someone she had voted for on her list which seems to put Kitanna in the clear.

Durelin ... seems least suspicious of the rest followed by Legate (though he is wrong about me

).

Now while I am surest about Lalaith she has indicated that she is after my blood and Legate may well be consistent...

I know that if you lynch me it is game over ...... so since I am unlikely to get in the time I am left enough support for a Lalaith lynch and Durelin has already voted this is the best option

++ Hookbill the Goomba

I may be able to return this afternoon and if I do will reconsider ...

Lalaith · 03-10-2007, 04:39 AM

This, along with what I've got so far in my analysis, tells me that Mith is almost certainly a wolf and the other wolf is probably Durelin. I was waiting to see which 2 of my trio of suspects would vote together.

++MITHALWEN

If any of the rest of you need convincing I'll be back with my analysis soon.

(Of course, I might be barking up completely the wrong tree. My Lommy-list theory might be completely wrong and the wolves might be Kitanna and Durelin after all. Or Kitanna and Hookbill, for that matter.
Or Legate might be the most fantastically convincing faux-innocent newbie in the history of Werewolf. But given the way the votes have gone already.

Back later.

03-10-2007, 04:07 AM	#5
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I have dashed out while my house guest is in teh bath. This may be my only visit! so I may have to vote quickly. The reason I voted for Gil despite my words and doubts was that while my vote was pointless for the lynch registering any vote yesterday would protect me from summary removal if I couldn't get on line today (real probability) and would keep me in the game assuming I survived .. Now I am sure a few of you will say that this is becasue I am a wolf but it is just because I am innocent and the village needs me.... to make up the numbers at least. durelin I share your concern about Lalaith ..that was really fishy given the timing.. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-10-2007, 04:26 AM	#6
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Hmm...this is actually pretty fishy. points up Durelin is happy to accept my analysis, eg by accepting that Kitanna is probably innocent. Yet she departs with a slight attempt to discredit me. If you think I'm not to be trusted, Durelin, why do you trust my theories? Then Mith leaps in, not with any speculation about Lommy and her list (which frankly should be the focus of any innocent today, as it one of the few pieces of evidence we have) but jumping on this comment instead. I'm half way through a big analysis of Durelin, Hookbill and Mith, and I've got some interesting things. I've got to go out now, but I'll be back later this afternoon to post them up and decide on my vote. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

03-10-2007, 04:29 AM	#7
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Especially since during the day all she said was I'm a bit worried about Hookbill a couple of times with no supporting evidence.... Hookbill is worrying by his quietness and his I'm a novice I keep quite type approach but this seems like a back covering exercise sine money was not put where mouth was. I am inclined to think that Hookbill and Lalaith are our remaining wolves and Lalaith was covering her back. I do however think it unlikely that Lommy would not have someone she had voted for on her list which seems to put Kitanna in the clear. Durelin ... seems least suspicious of the rest followed by Legate (though he is wrong about me ). Now while I am surest about Lalaith she has indicated that she is after my blood and Legate may well be consistent... I know that if you lynch me it is game over ...... so since I am unlikely to get in the time I am left enough support for a Lalaith lynch and Durelin has already voted this is the best option ++ Hookbill the Goomba I may be able to return this afternoon and if I do will reconsider ... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-10-2007, 04:39 AM	#8
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	This, along with what I've got so far in my analysis, tells me that Mith is almost certainly a wolf and the other wolf is probably Durelin. I was waiting to see which 2 of my trio of suspects would vote together. ++MITHALWEN If any of the rest of you need convincing I'll be back with my analysis soon. (Of course, I might be barking up completely the wrong tree. My Lommy-list theory might be completely wrong and the wolves might be Kitanna and Durelin after all. Or Kitanna and Hookbill, for that matter. Or Legate might be the most fantastically convincing faux-innocent newbie in the history of Werewolf. But given the way the votes have gone already. Back later. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

03-09-2007, 05:12 PM	#1
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	God I feel so stupid... We are but six, and two among us our wolves...we have no wild cards anymore, no protection...and you're all scary! Lalaith, you're making sense, though...finally. I think it quite likely that Lommy would have had Kitanna on her list, but I am not sure who else. We're just lucky (hah, yeah, right) that this type of Hunter does not take innocents down with them in the Night... Considering the situation we're in, I'm willing to work on the assumption that Kitanna is innocent. I think we kind of have to, because otherwise we're just a mob pointing fingers yet again. The fact that Lommy voted for Kitanna, along with the good possibility that the wolves have as sharp of eyes as Lalaith does in spotting a possible Ranger-Hunter communication, makes me comfortable with Kitanna's innocence. And the fact that Lalaith has gone through all the trouble to prove this, and suggested the Kath kill was a likely Ranger-slaying attempt makes me feel a lot better about her than I have this entire game. Things are looking a little clearer to me. At least the death of the Hunter has given us some information to work with. I have thought Hookbill's overly cautious and "oh, don't look at me, I'm new at this" thing was hiding something more, and his vote for Gil yesterDay made me wonder about him even more. Perhaps at the start of a bandwagon lynch of the Ranger is a pretty un-safe place to hide, but that late in the game, getting the Gifteds I imagine would be top priority, especially if they know each other's identity. Mith's behavior near the end of the voting and at the end was odd... She suddenly warns about Gil possibly being a Gifted, she said before that she thinks him innocent, and then she votes for him anyway... Why? To be lost among the other Gil voters, or just to make sure he couldn't be saved? If she is a wolf, then that will explain all of my confusion about her rather dramatic behavior... I was rather convinced she was innocent until late yesterDay. Perhaps I should feel doubly stupid? My stomach is killing me, so I'm going to chill for a bit, but I'll be back... I can tell you right now, though, that my vote will very likely go for either Hookbill or Mith. I will hold off voting as long as I can, though...whoever dies toDay has to be a wolf. There are still four of us innocents out there, so please, please be here and vote!! We haven't lost yet!

03-09-2007, 10:17 PM	#3
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Well, I need to get to bed and unfortunately I don't think I'll be back before the deadline. Darn this Catholic guilt that makes me say I'll do something on the weekend that I really really don't want to do...particularly when it gets in the way of WW... Quick concern about Lalaith - her "Anyway I think this Gil bandwaggon is totally misguided" turned out nice and strategic. Then her "I'd rather have voted for Hookbill if there was any possibility of him getting lynched" bugs me because she didn't drive very hard for his lynching. Playing it safe? Anyway, I have to vote now... I have felt uneasy about Hookbill the entire game, and his vote for Gil yesterDay looks the most wolfish to me of any of the votes for Gil. On the other hand, Mith's switch on Gil seems really odd to me. But her vote wasn't necessary to lynch him, was it? So then it would be a wasted bold move for a wolf... I'll go with what my gut has been telling me for a while... ++Hookbill Please, other innocents, vote toDay!!