Werewolf XXXI: The Unknown Enemies

[Brinniel]

Well, I'm sorry I didn't post immediately, but as you must realize, it can be rather difficult to type with bruised fingers. Ow... *rubs her swollen fingers*

Anyways, Day One seems to be the most difficult of days to make judgements. I can't really find anyone suspicious right now, especially when I haven't heard from very many yet. Hopefully, when I return tomorrow there will be plenty of new posts.

This whole mysterious roles thing could be...err...rather interesting. I'm certainly hoping Sixth Wizard is wrong and it won't become an advantage to the wolves in the long run. Hmm...I'm actually not sure whose advantage this will be to, if anyone at all. We'll just have to see how it plays out. But as Roa stated earlier, it is probably best we don't worry about all these mystery roles and focus lynching a wolf toDay. With that said, let us get started and begin posting people!

I can't wait up any longer and most definitely need my rest. If all goes well, this thread should at least be on page 2 by the time I return. Until later...

*attempts to get up out of chair, but somehow manages to trip over it. Brinn then falls in the most ungraceful manner taking the chair down with her*

*gets up, again ungracefully, and places chair upright*

Don't worry about me...I'm okay...

[The Sixth Wizard]

Well people, it's 6:30pm for me over here in Melbourne, and I really can't stay on the computer for much longer. If no-one has posted by my 7:00pm I'm afraid I shall have to vote anyway, as I don't really hold with the notion of getting up at 7:00am on my school holidays.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Roa

We have 13 people, so I highly doubt that Menel put more than 3 wolves into the mix. On the other hand, that doesn't exclude a wearbear or a cobbler.

I doubt we have a werebear. Remember this would mean two kills per night! We wouldn't stand a chance...

And that's as much as I am going to speculate about what roles we have and what roles we don't. I highly doubt such speculation will get us anywhere. They will only distract us from looking for wolves. Beware of those who try to discreetly encourage such discussions without taking active parts in them!


Well, it's still early in the game and there is little to be said concerning wolves. The only one who raises one of my eyebrows is Glirdan. His claim that Roa is inconsistent looks a bit bad. The way he mainly takes up and simplifies Rikae's point gives the impression of a wolf trying to launch a 'suspicion bandwaggon', hoping others will join it while the wolves watch idly and unnoticed.

Nothing more to say at the moment.

[Thinlómien]

Yes, Glirdan seems quite taking Rikae's point - which was not an accusation in my opinion - and turning it to an accusation while trying to make it seem that Rikae's with him there... Looks quite bad...

And Mac and Roa seem to be taking the "don't do like I do, do as I say"-attitude to discussing the roles... However I agree with them we shouldn't speculate them too much. Maybe tomorrow, or later, but not now when we have no evidence (eg. what happens during the night, no "proper" narrations...).

[Thinlómien]

++GLIRDAN

He looks quite bad.
(Though possibly he looks too bad to be a real baddie. )

I must say that the evidence against him is in a way quite feeble (at this phase of the day) - I would love to hear Glirdy explaining his actions or responding to the accusations against him in some way, for one, and it's never wise to judge on the basis of only a few posts - but I'm going to vote him because he simply seems clearly the most suspicious of those who have posted this far.
I hope I'll have more to go on with my future votes.

It's a bye-bye from me for toDay...

[The Sixth Wizard]

Well, a few people at least think that Glirdan is a Werewolf, perhaps this means a cobbler is not involved here? And I tend to agree that he is suspicious. I need to get off the computer now, so...

++Glirdan .

Sorry mate if you are innocent, whereas if you are guilty ...

DEATH TO YOU!

[Glirdan]

Okay, roleplaying over for me for now.

Roa
I think you've misunderstood me entirely, or else you are intentionally misrepresenting my post. I said we shouldn't immediately believe someone who claims to be a hunter, for example, especially when we don't even know if there is a hunter. And as I pointed out to Rikae, there are no retractable votes this game. A gifted could not afford to wait until the last minute, and niether could a wolf if they wanted to use that strategy. I did not say "Gifteds should definitely not reveal," I said "Villagers should be aware that the wolves will find it a great deal easier to pose as gifteds in this village." (Paraphrased.)

And now I am clear. I was actually a litte befuddled by what you had posted which made me leery(sp?) of you. Sorry for jumping down your throat.

Now I am quite disturbed by Sixth's and Lommy's votes for me.

Lommy
I must say that the evidence against him is in a way quite feeble (at this phase of the day) - I would love to hear Glirdy explaining his actions or responding to the accusations against him in some way, for one, and it's never wise to judge on the basis of only a few posts - but I'm going to vote him because he simply seems clearly the most suspicious of those who have posted this far.
I hope I'll have more to go on with my future votes.

She first votes for me. Then she goes on to say that the evidence is feeble ad that she would like to hear my response but is votingon my because I'm the most suspicious when almost 1/3 of the players have not voted yet. Now, I take into account her time zone problem as that is why I myself have to vote now.

However, I'm not as disturbed by her vote as I am by Sixth's.

Sixth
Well, a few people at least think that Glirdan is a Werewolf, perhaps this means a cobbler is not involved here? And I tend to agree that he is suspicious.

Voting for me on the pure fact that a few people are suspicious of me and that he agrees I'm suspicious. Alright and dandy. But no explanation as to why I'm suspicious? That worries me. Sure it's a Day1, but if you yourself are suspicious of someone, at least explain what you're suspicious of and not just say "Oh everyone else is suspicious and so am I." To me, that looks bad.

And because of that (and because I have school in an hour till after closing time ) I shall cast my vote for

++Sixth

Now I shall go and count those leave above my shed to help me fall asleep.

[the guy who be short]

Hello village.

I am suspicious of Thinlomien for a number of factors. Observe-ye:

1. I don't understand this attack against Roa. I think she speaks sense and I don't find myself suspecting her.

   I disagree. Talking about gifteds and all that this early is in no way helpful. They can also work things out for themselves. That Roa-post looks like it was trying to be helpful, but wasn't saying much that was helpful to the village.
2. Her accusations and vote for Glirdan. Seems to be on very shoddy evidence to me.

3. I agree with them we shouldn't speculate them too much [about roles]

   Isn't that what Roa, who she defends, was doing?
4. Tradition!

I am also uneasy about Roa, as I said above, and The Sixth Wizard, for jumping onto the attack on Glirdan.

EDIT: Hmmm. Cool indents.

[Thinlómien]

I'm here and unfortunately must leave within an hour. (See admin thread.) Damn the lack of net access. Fortunately I will be able to post more in the Days to come (if I'm still alive).

~*~

I don't understand this attack against Roa. I think she speaks sense and I don't find myself suspecting her... (See Roa? Someone's inclined to trust you this early... bad for your fame... )

Rikae? She seems pretty innocent too. To me it seems she just misunderstood Roa.

Glirdan then... he's the one to turn heads this morning... and for a reason. His jump to support Rikae's feeble-ish accusations so early is like an example from the classic Spot-a-Wolf -book. He seems suspicious to me, yet I wonder if a wolf'd be this... obvious. Anyway, there's nothing out of his character, but if I recall correctly, this has been the case with all glirdanes whether innocent or guilty. So the point of this ramble? He is suspicious, but I'm not sure if he's guilty. I don't like making very hasty decisions. However, if further rereads bring nothing new or nothing that wakes my suspicions happens while I'm still around, I'll be voting him.

Brinn? Sixth? Gil? No idea, you can't tell much from their posts.

The others? Even less idea about them silent ones.

[Gil-Galad]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Brinn? Sixth? Gil? No idea, you can't tell much from their posts.

i fail to see how anyone can tell from the first posts...

but i got a little itch from Lommy's post... she just came right out and tried to defend Roa... could be a virtuous villager, but everyone should know that if they are an ordinary, they are on their own

so that makes me inclined to think that either Roa and thin are wolves... or our gifted...

Suspicous:
Thinlomien
Roa

[Rikae]

I just have a moment to check the posts now, but I'll be around before the deadline.

Right now the whole Glirdan issue is most attention grabbing. While I raised an eyebrow at the way Glirdan's second post seems to misrepresent the issues, I can't decide whether to believe it's willful misrepresentation or innocent misunderstanding. The blending of "oh, pretty butterfly..." in character comments with suspicion feels off to me too, but I'll reserve judgement for the time being.
Something about TGWBS bugs me. He says that Roa's first post is "trying to sound helpful without being helpful", and that phrase immediately jumped out at me. It's become sort of a stock-accusation that's easy to fling around, and doesn't really make sense so early in the game. It seems a little too generalized, and especially bothers me coupled with the suspicion toward Thinlomien for voting early (in my experience, she almost always does, and I think TGWBS knows that).
I also wonder why he wouldn't want a hunter to reveal:

Originally Posted by The Guy Who Be Short

I'd rather a more important gifted (the Hunter isn't that important) declared themselves rather than letting themselves be killed. .

If I'm not mistaken, an ordinary hunter only kills if he/she is killed by wolves. It seems to me the wolves would like very much to have a hunter safely lynched, rather than revealed.
I don't care for Legate's defeatist attitude; we may have slim chances of catching a wolf on day one, but they are certainly better if we actually make an effort!

EDIT: x'd with Gil and Mac
EDIT2: Oh yeah, just Mac. I forgot seeing Gil's post.