censorship - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Elmo · 04-08-2007, 01:19 PM

I'm trying to be less ironic on this forum, some people don't understand it

narfforc · 04-08-2007, 01:34 PM

What ointment did you use on your fingers when you tried to rescue your useless season ticket, get one for GlasgowCeltic and you won't have to incinerate mashed trees.

Elmo · 04-08-2007, 01:37 PM

I've not went over to the dark side yet Narfforc

narfforc · 04-08-2007, 01:45 PM

Alex Ferguson, the greatest BRITISH maneger that has ever lived, sorry but he wasn't an elf and that's my last word.

The Might · 04-08-2007, 02:37 PM

I know we're getting really off-topic here, just wanted to say I like Heart of Midlothian, just for their logo

About that quote...don't really know what to say
Probably just a clear example of Iluvatar's power as he is teaching Melkor a lesson and making it clear that he's the boss.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 04-08-2007, 03:44 PM

You know, it's amazing how many people don't come here to talk about association football. I'm one of them, so I'll have to address the original point of this thread.

We have a set of rules in place at the Barrow-Downs. The choice we have all been given is to obey them or leave, and some popular and respected members have been banned over infringements of them. This has been done so that the Downs will not be one of those forums where newcomers who suggest provocative ideas can be flamed into oblivion by bad-tempered long-term members like me. It has also been done because we pride ourselves on the quality of our discussions, and, I think, because we're more concerned here with sharing opinions and information about Tolkien than doing battle or being challenged. This is a community, not a competition; although that's not to say that we want everyone to agree on every subject. Where there's disagreement, I tend to side with the most convincing argument rather than the most impassioned plea, because no amount of passion ever made night into day or twice two into nine. All I've ever seen it do is turn an interesting discussion into a slanging match, but this forum wouldn't afford very many examples of that because we have rules.

Davem makes a very good point: we don't know who's reading what we say, and who's to say that my idea of a sharp retort isn't a dire insult to someone else? Nobody has an inalienable right not to have people offend them, but that doesn't mean that we should all have free licence to offend in the name of debate; so we observe rules of courtesy: basically, no ad hominem attacks, keep to the subject, don't be sarcastic or abusive and make your point with facts and reasoning. It can be fun to see two very well-informed people swapping quotes and dancing on the line of acceptable behaviour, but I prefer to read informative arguments rather than expand my store of snide remarks. Some might argue from my recent posts that it's become rather too full already.

Anyway, that's quite enough response to this old chestnut. It was discussed way back in 2002, and has been revisited several times since. I find it as tiresome as Bêthberry does, but sometimes I torture myself by responding in several paragraphs when 'not again' was my initial reaction.

[EDIT] I now have 1,912 posts recorded under a picture of a Titanic survivor. I'm tempted never to post again.

pps. Although I did, almost immediately. So much for that idea.

Lalwendë · 04-08-2007, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by narfforc

Alex Ferguson, the greatest BRITISH maneger that has ever lived, sorry but he wasn't an elf and that's my last word.

Every time I hear the words Alex and Ferguson or Manchester and United now I'm going to associate them with that infamous insult of Gene Hunt's in Life On Mars involving Man U...

...won't repeat it here, if you know what I'm talking about you will know why.

But at least they're better than Liverpool.*

*with apologies to Rune, who cannot see the superior qualities of the colour blue.

Sorry, what were we discussing again?

04-08-2007, 01:19 PM	#1
Elmo Pittodrie Poltergeist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trying to find that warm and winding lane again Posts: 633	I'm trying to be less ironic on this forum, some people don't understand it __________________ As Beren looked into her eyes within the shadows of her hair, The trembling starlight of the skies he saw there mirrored shimmering.

04-08-2007, 01:34 PM	#2
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	What ointment did you use on your fingers when you tried to rescue your useless season ticket, get one for GlasgowCeltic and you won't have to incinerate mashed trees. __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.

04-08-2007, 01:37 PM	#3
Elmo Pittodrie Poltergeist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trying to find that warm and winding lane again Posts: 633	I've not went over to the dark side yet Narfforc __________________ As Beren looked into her eyes within the shadows of her hair, The trembling starlight of the skies he saw there mirrored shimmering.

04-08-2007, 01:45 PM	#4
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	Alex Ferguson, the greatest BRITISH maneger that has ever lived, sorry but he wasn't an elf and that's my last word. __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.

04-08-2007, 02:37 PM	#5
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I know we're getting really off-topic here, just wanted to say I like Heart of Midlothian, just for their logo About that quote...don't really know what to say Probably just a clear example of Iluvatar's power as he is teaching Melkor a lesson and making it clear that he's the boss. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

04-08-2007, 03:44 PM	#6
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	The kraken wakes You know, it's amazing how many people don't come here to talk about association football. I'm one of them, so I'll have to address the original point of this thread. We have a set of rules in place at the Barrow-Downs. The choice we have all been given is to obey them or leave, and some popular and respected members have been banned over infringements of them. This has been done so that the Downs will not be one of those forums where newcomers who suggest provocative ideas can be flamed into oblivion by bad-tempered long-term members like me. It has also been done because we pride ourselves on the quality of our discussions, and, I think, because we're more concerned here with sharing opinions and information about Tolkien than doing battle or being challenged. This is a community, not a competition; although that's not to say that we want everyone to agree on every subject. Where there's disagreement, I tend to side with the most convincing argument rather than the most impassioned plea, because no amount of passion ever made night into day or twice two into nine. All I've ever seen it do is turn an interesting discussion into a slanging match, but this forum wouldn't afford very many examples of that because we have rules. Davem makes a very good point: we don't know who's reading what we say, and who's to say that my idea of a sharp retort isn't a dire insult to someone else? Nobody has an inalienable right not to have people offend them, but that doesn't mean that we should all have free licence to offend in the name of debate; so we observe rules of courtesy: basically, no ad hominem attacks, keep to the subject, don't be sarcastic or abusive and make your point with facts and reasoning. It can be fun to see two very well-informed people swapping quotes and dancing on the line of acceptable behaviour, but I prefer to read informative arguments rather than expand my store of snide remarks. Some might argue from my recent posts that it's become rather too full already. Anyway, that's quite enough response to this old chestnut. It was discussed way back in 2002, and has been revisited several times since. I find it as tiresome as Bêthberry does, but sometimes I torture myself by responding in several paragraphs when 'not again' was my initial reaction. [EDIT] I now have 1,912 posts recorded under a picture of a Titanic survivor. I'm tempted never to post again. pps. Although I did, almost immediately. So much for that idea. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne? Last edited by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh; 04-08-2007 at 03:58 PM.